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Unread 29th of August, 2011, 16:32
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Unread 31st of August, 2011, 09:52
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Never played Pathfinder ... are there online resources available?
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Unread 31st of August, 2011, 10:46
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Unread 31st of August, 2011, 11:13
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It has almost everything available in the game, including the newest book Ultimate Combat. If not for d20pfsrd, I'd be SOL.
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Unread 1st of September, 2011, 20:15
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I still have no idea how or why that site is alright.
If it's intentional by Paizo that such things are possible, then I am damn well going to (continue to) throw all sorts of money at them.
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Unread 1st of September, 2011, 21:10
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Not only is it all right, it's won TWO Enny silver medals for best website.

If you go to Paizo's own SRD, doesn't it have all the same information?
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Unread 1st of September, 2011, 21:16
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"Ignorant" doesn't even begin to describe my awareness of what the SRD includes or how Paizo does OGL stuff.
I really don't care, except enough to say "well they must be doing something awesome if d20pfsrd is alright."
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Unread 1st of September, 2011, 21:21
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Well, Paizo are obligated to share a certain percentage of their stuff as they are exploiting the OGL. They go beyond this as Pathfinder (as an RPG product) is in a fairly tenuous position and they need to keep their fanbase "on side". It's fine to see WotC as a big faceless corporation, but Paizo really bank on a more personal touch (such as the public playtesting whenever they do a new big release).

Still, the reasons matter less than it being super useful to always have full rules access.
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Unread 2nd of September, 2011, 05:31
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“ Originally Posted by Mercutio # If you go to Paizo's own SRD, doesn't it have all the same information? ”
It updates a lot slower and doesn't include 3rd party material, but yeah, basically. Also, I think it's missing a lot of minor material, like the Pathfinder Companions.
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Unread 2nd of September, 2011, 14:15
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And, honestly, it would be nice if they had some pictures even if they were simply clickable links.

But yeah, when Paizo set out to design Pathfinder they were making it as widely available as possible. Pretty much the polar opposite of T$R's previous standpoints. I feel the same way, z. Just haven't had the excess money to throw their way much yet. I own the core book and the beastiary and am hopefully going to be getting the Advanced Player's Guide soon too. I also would like to get Ultimate Magic but am less enthused with Ultimate Combat.

More than anything I just love the system though. IMO it fixes everything that was wrong with 3.5 and doesn't include the stuff in 4th that I dislike. So for me it is the perfect system. Or close to it. The flaws I see are minor and generally fixed by a couple simple house rules. (Such as animal companions not getting racial bonuses to skills like any other member of their species would.)
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Unread 2nd of September, 2011, 14:33
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“ Originally Posted by Lune # And, honestly, it would be nice if they had some pictures even if they were simply clickable links.

But yeah, when Paizo set out to design Pathfinder they were making it as widely available as possible. Pretty much the polar opposite of T$R's previous standpoints. I feel the same way, z. Just haven't had the excess money to throw their way much yet. I own the core book and the beastiary and am hopefully going to be getting the Advanced Player's Guide soon too. I also would like to get Ultimate Magic but am less enthused with Ultimate Combat.

More than anything I just love the system though. IMO it fixes everything that was wrong with 3.5 and doesn't include the stuff in 4th that I dislike. So for me it is the perfect system. Or close to it. The flaws I see are minor and generally fixed by a couple simple house rules. (Such as animal companions not getting racial bonuses to skills like any other member of their species would.)
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Having reviewed the system since we last spoke about it, I will say the balance is closer than it was in 3.5 and it's generally a better system in a lot of ways, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it fixes everything, and there are a number of things I think 4.0 does a lot better than 3.5 (like making magic items for example). I can't agree with your opinion that it's a perfect system, but it is a good system.
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Unread 2nd of September, 2011, 15:06
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In 4th edition's favor, it's hard to make a character completely useless in combat (unless you actually try). You just get your various attack powers and they're all mostly acceptable.
Contrast with my attempt at a witch earlier. She would've been excellent in a certain kind of game, but not one where combats happen. Especially combats with undead. It wasn't that I was designing her around that, I just stepped back at the end, looked over her sheet, and realized "yeah this isn't happening."
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Unread 2nd of September, 2011, 16:53
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I don't want to get into another 4 vs. 3.5 debate.

I'll suffice it to say that no system is perfect. That is why I specified that "...for me it is the perfect system. Or close to it."

By the way, magic item creation in Pathfinder works different than 3.5 too. I'd recommend checking it out. Not for this game though as it is disallowed in PFS play.

z, I think your witch character would have better as a cleric who channeled negative energy or a necromancer wizard that was just roleplayed as a "witch". I know you were likely more interested in playing the class but I don't so much think it is a fault of the system that some classes are stronger in certain types of campaigns. I think thats just the nature of the beast so to speak. That can happen in 4th edition too. Even in 3.5 I could pick a ranger and instead of picking his favored enemy be undead I could pick animal. It would be a suboptimal choice for the campaign but it is a conscious choice I would be making as a player to do so.
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Unread 2nd of September, 2011, 17:29
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Well it's not like I actually prefer 4e, I just like that aspect of it. Pathfinder is awesome.
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Unread 2nd of September, 2011, 20:40
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“ That can happen in 4th edition too. ”
Well, yes, you can have a character better suited for a certain kind of campaign. But what you can't have is a character that is completely useless in a combat. Everyone has attack powers and they're all roughly the same thing. It's both a good aspect and bad aspect of 4E. It means everyone can contribute the same in a combat, but it also means that there isn't a whole lot, mechanically, that differentiates between a rogue's Deft Strike and a fighter's Cleave. Which can lead to feeling stale as each class, while it has its quirks, has powers that are pretty much just reskins of other powers, maybe with a different "Special" here and there.

In any case, no edition wars, please. Each system does its own thing and each has its own strengths and weaknesses.

Time for some monkish ass-kicking. Or dying. But I'd like to avoid that. So far the unarmed monk has the highest AC. Which doesn't bode well...

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Unread 2nd of September, 2011, 21:49
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Either you have a high AC or... you just kill the opponents really quickly. My barbarian is better suited killing than surviving as well.
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“ Originally Posted by Mercutio # So far the unarmed monk has the highest AC. Which doesn't bode well... ”
Eh?

The monk and the magus have the same "base" AC. And the magus has access to the shield spell and Combat Expertise. Of course, I'm not likely to actually hit anything... but I'll look good doing it.
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Unread 2nd of September, 2011, 23:05
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Looking good is what this game is all about. Yes!

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Unread 2nd of September, 2011, 23:23
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“ Originally Posted by Darius # Eh?

The monk and the magus have the same "base" AC. And the magus has access to the shield spell and Combat Expertise. Of course, I'm not likely to actually hit anything... but I'll look good doing it.
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For some reason I thought your AC was 16.

I wasn't taking Combat Expertise into account. I think the monk will be doing a lot of readied actions and fighting defensively.
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True. So total AC is 17+1 for expert duellist (when faced with only one foe) +4 for shield + 1 for CE= 23. Not bad for a lvl 1 character. And the penalty for CE will be offset by adding a +1 to attacks from the arcane pool.
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Unread 3rd of September, 2011, 04:37
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Hi, I'm an archer. Don't let things near me please. Thanks, I appreciate it.
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“ Originally Posted by Linklegacy77 # Hi, I'm an archer. Don't let things near me please. Thanks, I appreciate it. ”
, sounds like a character I would make.
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Also, I registered for the Pathfinder Society, so maybe when space opens up I'll have a character ready.
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Unread 3rd of September, 2011, 05:38
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Well, AbidingDude just had to drop out, not that he had the time yet to get a character posted.
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