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Unread 29th of January, 2006, 03:41
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I hereby implore your benevolant hearts to be gracious and hear out my request...

Online-Roleplaying.Commodities is needing a better server - you all must've experience nasty down time lately - and Paul and I have been exploring some posibilities. We've tried a virtual server, but that turned out to be a no-go before we even got around to install a test version of ORP on that server - simply because we could not install / update our own software.
The only other reasonable option is buying a dedicated server. Initial purchase of the server costs 1249 US Dollars (plus 150 US Dollars setup-fee - totalling about 1150 Euro) and from then on, we only pay bandwidth (45 US Dollars - 36 Euro) per month. I myself can easily pay the monthly fee, but the initial amount is a bit steep.
This is where you lovely folks come in: I'm asking you fine folks to chip in any amount you can spare; even if donations total less than the 1150 euro, that would make it more reasonable for me.

So please dear folk, head over to the home page and click on that paypal button!
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Unread 29th of January, 2006, 10:17
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Okay, that scares me...

Anyway, I reckon that I will have to put something back in return for donations. Something similar as Enworld's Community Supporter thingy. Anyone got ideas?
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Unread 29th of January, 2006, 14:21
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I wish I had something to donate, but at the moment I don't.

Ideas for donation benefits? I think that the site pretty much warrants donations on it's own, but I see where you're coming from. Well, the way this is laid out doesn't leand itself to particular benefits. I have some ideas though...

1. Increased number of Private Messages: 70 ---> 100?
2. Title Change: [Contributor]
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Unread 29th of January, 2006, 14:50
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*Tosses a tiny bit of money at Danny*

No where near enough, but if I had more to spare, I would. Maybe once this whole finding-new-place-to-live-thing gets settled.

Really, people, if all you can spare is, say, the cost of a gamebook or a video game if you're really surly, every little bit is enough. Given the number of active members on the forum, if that's all anyone contributed, it'd get the job done. After all, it is a service being provided to us that we obviously all enjoy enough to stick around and keep playing here. I mean, where -else- do you get an itches, just for instance?

Let's try to avoid a large string of posts consisting of "Oh, sorry, can't." Get that a lot on another forum when this sort of thing comes up...And it's right annoying to read and likely discouraging to the staff when that's all people post.

And the souls thing disturbs me, too >.>
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Unread 29th of January, 2006, 15:31
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Originally Posted by LeeCHeSSS Okay, that scares me...

Anyway, I reckon that I will have to put something back in return for donations. Something similar as Enworld's Community Supporter thingy. Anyone got ideas?
I think the standard idea of a little badge under the name that marks out those who contribute would work, despite how tacky it is. Or, and I'm not sure this is a good idea, you could always make a custom title the reward
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Originally Posted by nightinverse 2. Title Change: [Contributor]
Please let's not attach a large sign to the people who donate saying "I've Donated"
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Custom title is a nice reward

maybe an e-mail adres, or are those allready free ?
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The email addresses have always been free, but I am actually closing down ORP Mail.

I think the increase in PM's is a good idea, and probably some other benefits similar in nature...
Ross is right about titles, it might only serve to encourage elitism; I've always done my best to prevent that from appearing on ORP
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Unread 29th of January, 2006, 23:19
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well I don't know the reason of shutting down orp-mail, but I'm sure I would be able to forward mail to other adresses....
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Originally Posted by LeeCHeSSS Ross is right about titles, it might only serve to encourage elitism; I've always done my best to prevent that from appearing on ORP
That isn't really elitisim though, as it is about nothing important. It's more just waving around your e-wang.
Elitism is a good thing for the site. Afterall nobody wants to play in a game with crappy players and a crappier DM if they can avoid it.
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It's more just waving around your e-wang.
Then let's not take half measures! Make the tag a variable that changes to show how much you've donated.

Based on the current market value of said souls.
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I like it, it lets you know who has the biggest penis at a glance!
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Well we could pop in a special award, danny and I could take you out drinking. Would that be something for the highest donation ?
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Originally Posted by BigRedRod Afterall nobody wants to play in a game with crappy players and a crappier DM if they can avoid it.
However, a contribution really has nothing to do with roleplaying ability...
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Originally Posted by nightinverse However, a contribution really has nothing to do with roleplaying ability...
Well actually this is not true, you do become a better roleplaying if you contribute to our cause.....

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Originally Posted by nightinverse However, a contribution really has nothing to do with roleplaying ability...
You misunderstood what I was saying. Danny claimed that elitism was a bad thing, I claimed this was not true, we're trying to avoid the site becoming a super best friends club of core members but it would be a good thing if we were more elitist
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We're already elitist, why beat around the bush? There are Epics, and there are regular users- a distinction based upon numbers. There are GMs and there are untitled players- a distinction based upon assumed responsibility.

How do you propose we practice an effective elitism that is based upon merit? Keep in mind that post regularity, post length, time-devotion, assumed responsibility and monetary contributions are not applicable to measuring what is essentially a subjective position.

I simply wanted to point out that any kind of easily generated elitist system fails to distinguish between poor and good roleplayers with any accuracy.
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Originally Posted by nightinverse We're already elitist, why beat around the bush? There are Epics, and there are regular users- a distinction based upon numbers. There are GMs and there are untitled players- a distinction based upon assumed responsibility.
We really aren't. New users have no way of knowing whether a game they are signing up for is going to fizzle and die within minutes and old users have no way of deciding which new users are diamonds in the rough.

How do you propose we practice an effective elitism that is based upon merit? Keep in mind that post regularity, post length, time-devotion, assumed responsibility and monetary contributions are not applicable to measuring what is essentially a subjective position.

I simply wanted to point out that any kind of easily generated elitist system fails to distinguish between poor and good roleplayers with any accuracy.
A simple rating system / general feedback thread would work, so long as everybody is mature to take criticism that is.

Anyhow, this is leaving on an exciting tangent. The moral is, elitism is a good thing and should be encouraged. What Danny wants to avoid here isn't really that, but it segregating the site into little groups which aren't accessible to new users so that they feel shunned upon arrival
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The Nice forums ( http://nice.purrsia.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi ) offer custom titles (that have to be approved and the members can't change themselves) for donations of $5 or more. If one has multiple logins, or wants to donate for their friends' accounts, they allow that too. They're usual titles are simply "member" though too, only really changing most times for "moderator" or "admin".

Another friend I talked to agreed that in most cases, a small note in one's profile or on the info bar where it says Join Date, Member #, Location, etc, isn't necessarily a bad thing, and usually doesn't inspire elitism; it just means that at some point, that person had some cash available to donate to a site so they and others could continue to use it. Yeah, there's an e-penis thing there sometimes, but it's usually not too major of a deal if you don't make it much of one, beyond just showing some appreciative recognition of the contributors so others consider it a bit more maybe themselves.

Me, I'll go either way on the matter. If my measly donation gets me a little thingie attached to my name or in my profile, that's okay. If I get nothing, that's okay too, cuz I know I did something anyway.
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Unread 31st of January, 2006, 02:45
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My vote is for increased PM storage or the like, as opposed to any kind of title/badge/notation thing.
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Yeah, I think the PM storage is the best way to go.
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So far that won't be a major hit on the disk space used; seeing as there are only 3 people who would get that
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