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Unread 24th of February, 2010, 15:32
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Plague is the wrong term--as Gral so astutely mentioned to me this morning. It's really more like a curse that's brought onto local areas via an agent or agents (be they material, supernatural, or choose your own adventure). It's not a Zombie Apocalypse (yet). It's more like a Zombie Uprising.

Additionally, it is over 800 miles from Tradeholm to Karkas and the Citadel. That's 800 miles through less-traveled roads than those that lead to the duchies and it's going north into rugged terrain as we start to close from autumn to winter. That would be rough going and risky if we were concerned about the threat of undead.
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Unread 24th of February, 2010, 15:57
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873 miles under what I assume are ideal, or at least favorable, traveling conditions.
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That map is not canon
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Unread 24th of February, 2010, 16:23
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Would you prefer that I make up a distance?
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It's kind of a moot point. Didn't we just decide that Shade and Nicos would fight it out?
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Okay. So you dislike the map and the distance. That's perfectly fine. Can you offer alternatives for direction, distance, and so forth? I'm all about building a consensus on this chapter/region/world we're creating, but I need more than just a rejection of my proposal here.

I think we can all agree that the Citadel and Karkas were supposed to be on the fringe of civilization with Tradeholm (and possibly Enderin?) being the last of the bigger towns in the region. Whether we call the distance between them 800 miles or 400 or 200, it doesn't really matter.
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Unread 25th of February, 2010, 06:04
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I think the distance between Karakas and the Citadel has to be less, as we played out that whole journey and it took only a few days.

The distance from the Citadel to Tradeholm, however, can be almost whatever we want it to be. We only played out the first 6 or 7 days of that trip (until the day after Shade left) and then glossed over the rest of it (after the break-up Shade's next appearence is in Tradeholm, and after Blarth let's slip Shade's ruse, Blarth and Nicos are next seen stepping onto the dock in Tradeholm, having caught a barge for an unspecified amount of time). That puts it at least 250 miles, and probably further. The only thing that is clear is that the Citadel is generally up river from Tradeholm.

With winter coming on, it's not unreasonable to think that there are no further caravans heading upriver, especially as that is considered frontier country. If the journey to the Duchies is largely down river, into more civilized lands (and thus along better roads), or at least through territory which is no less civilized than the area around Tradeholm, then any extra distance to the Duchies is more than made up for by the ease of travel.

Heck, even if it's a break even proposition, the party's experience there has certainly soured Shade on the wizards and Blarth isn't their biggest fan either.

Plus, its not like this journey starts with a goal. Mostly we're fleeing Tradeholm and the site of the combat with Skathros at first. Chances are we aren't going to head towards the Citadel during that period. It's only after the party comes across the first few signs of the Zombie Curse taking effect that the need to alert authorities would come to mind and by that point we could be closer to the Duchies than to the Citadel (depending on how long it takes to manifest itself).
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Unread 25th of February, 2010, 06:26
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You know, I keep forgetting about winter. Downside to living in the land of enternal summer, little facts like "winter exists" and "cold can kill" slip my mind.
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I agree with all of the above and will adjust my opener to Chapter 12 accordingly.
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Unread 27th of February, 2010, 00:40
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You know, looking back, it's amazing at how easily I accepted the concept of a zombie apocalypse in this setting. Totally ignoring the fact that it would require a significent shift in tone.
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Unread 27th of February, 2010, 10:36
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You know, I keep forgetting about winter.
I wish I could forget about winter. 7 hours today plowing and shoveling, and I still have a couple of hours tomorrow.
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