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Gralhruk 10th of July, 2014 04:52

Why, Peter Jackson, why?!?!?!?
 
So yeah, we rented The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug this weekend - frankly I was expecting it to be pretty bad and was pleasantly surprised that it was only a little worse than that. The reasons for my disappointment are many and varied, but mostly I simply weep for what might have been. Not to say there isn't anything good because there are a number of things to like, but in the end the whole is really much less than the sum of its parts.

itches 10th of July, 2014 18:55

I actually quite liked Desolation. I even liked a lot of the things they changed from the book. But then I didn't like the first one, because nothing happens in it, so I had pretty low expectations.

Gralhruk 10th of July, 2014 23:41

As I said, there are definitely things to like - certainly everything looks great apart from too much CGI, and I do like the portrayal of the dwarves quite a bit. Overall though, I think the additions are largely just bad decisions - we don't need ninety minutes of the Legolas Ginsu Stunt Show or the next installment of The Dwarven Bachelor.

Worse than that though is the minimal screen time given to the bits that actually happened in the book - Beorn, Mirkwood, the Spiders, Bilbo in general. I feel like mood and characterization got kind of lost in the desire to make cool monsters and over the top CGI action sequences.

itches 11th of July, 2014 00:18

Hell, the worst part of the movie was Beorn. That whole section needed to be cut. It added nothing.

Gralhruk 11th of July, 2014 01:22

Luckily it was only about 120 seconds long.

itches 11th of July, 2014 17:17

It lasted like, 30 minutes.

Gralhruk 12th of July, 2014 00:00

I seem to recall it being something like:

Beorn: RRROOOAAAAAARRRRRRRRWWWWWWWWRRRRRRRRR!!!! I'm a big hairy bear!
Thorin & Co: Crap, a big hairy bear! Let's hide in this house full of farm animals.
Bilbo: Look! A giant bee!
Gandalf: This is Beorn. He's a werebear.
Beorn: RRROOOAAAAAARRRRRRRRWWWWWWWWRRRRRRRRR!!!! I'm a big hairy man! Who hates orcs even more than he hates dwarves so here, ride some of my ponies to Mirkwood.
Thorin & Co: Good plan.

I think we're both right - it was 2 minutes that seemed like half an hour.

Tashalar 12th of July, 2014 01:43

I came, I read, and I voted! Yay me! Boo PJ! :roll:

I saw the movie quite some time ago. Low expectations going in, moderately amused and entertained coming out. I quickly forgot about it though. Not too good a sign.
(it means I'm getting old)

Gralhruk 12th of July, 2014 05:53

Moderately amused and entertained is about where I was if I were to simply gauge it as a movie. Knowing the source material is what makes me sad about the whole thing.

Oh, and I think itches might be older than you now.

itches 12th of July, 2014 10:27

My back hurts

Gralhruk 6th of January, 2015 05:58

So, over the holiday I went to see The Battle of the Five Armies. And quite honestly, I have to admit that my prediction of "Legolas wins!" was wrong. While he was indeed still present and still doing the impossible more dramatically then in LotR, he played much less of a role than I expected (which was good, IMO).

Overall, I liked this installment the best although I'd have to go and re-watch the others to really make that claim. As usual, I'm depressed for what might have been and disappointed by the sheer amount of CGI, but I found the whole entertaining and at least a step in the right direction when it came to characterization. Which I guess is more than I'd hoped for.

Tashalar 7th of January, 2015 05:47

I went to see the movie as well over the holidays. Once more I went with very low expectations. Which was a good basis as usual. Before going there I had read that the movie is 40% showing off scenery, 50% battle scenes and 10% goodbyes. From someone I heard she and her daughter were rather horrified by the prolonged battle scenes - the film ended up feeling like one long slaughter to them.

I... I did have fun. Which was the goal. Success, yay!

... let's all go and meet that ranger. What's his name again? Oh yes, Strider.

Church 29th of March, 2015 12:02

I wasn't terribly impressed with the last movie - primarily because of the completely redundant (and rushed) relationship between the dwarf and the she-elf. =/ It sucked balls, and didn't add anything to the film.

Ah well, all hail CGI violence, nai?


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