The great big OOC thread

[Gralhruk]

I win.

[Cadrius]

Where the hell did you pull that from?

And I can't believe I'm being trumped by the two of you.

[Gralhruk]

If you click on the number of replies next to any thread, you can see who replied and how many times.

[itches]

Now let's not play the who's got a bigger .... "post total" game.

[Cadrius]

But what will my fragile ego do if we don't play that game? It needs validation!

[Black Plauge]

If your in need of validation that way, then you better get posting.

Third place isn't very validating.

[Cadrius]

I'm working on it. You have to understand that I have yet to obtain the freakish ability of itches to repeatedly post without really saying anything.

I've yet to figure out how Gral tops the charts by such a wide margin. I suspect shenannigans.

[Black Plauge]

Try

[Black Plauge]

posting

[Black Plauge]

like

[Black Plauge]

this.

[Gralhruk]

Hey, I don't do that!

The fact of the matter is I'm slightly obsessive ;).

[Black Plauge]

I never said that you did that. Only that it was a way for Cadrius to help himself on the way to self validation.

[Gralhruk]

Well, it reads both ways and I needed to post something to help me on my way to self validation.

[Gralhruk]

Oh, and anybody object to red_dr4g0n94 posting in the OOC as opposed to Visitor's thread?

[Black Plauge]

Sorry about that then. I'm just trying to be helpful and self-validating at the same time.

[Black Plauge]

No.

[Gralhruk]

Well, since one vote on my side constitutes a majority I'll go let him know :).

[red_dr4g0n94]

This is a REALLY big thread. 80+ pages. That is a LOT of words. I'll try and catch up on the parts in the IC thread regarding this wizard stronghold, but I'll get up my character before anything else.

And what was this I heard earlier about one of the characters having a sibling named Ben?

[Black Plauge]

Cadrius had a brother named Ben who stole his girlfriend. He then killed Ben and the girlfriend and fell as a result.

Or something like that. I'd better let Cadrius explain.

[Gralhruk]

Keep BPs version in mind, though, as Cadrius will probably take 10 pages to say the same thing ;).

[Gralhruk]

Basically, the IC story is that Cadrius, Shade, Blarth, and Nicos set out from Karkas (a border town) to find Cadogan. Cadogan is a blind mage who was abducted from Karkas by a group of wizards that call themselves the Brotherhood of the Hidden Citadel.

Cadogan is actually a member of the Brotherhood, but the other characters don't know that. Since they aren't very trusting, they went to find him. After much trial and tribulation, we found the citadel and were welcomed with (more or less) open arms. That's pretty much where we are right now.

[red_dr4g0n94]

Hmmm....well, after seeing the rather magical inclination of this place, I can see Ben appearing in like this: He is a temporary guest to the wizards, probably becuase one of the wizards here is somehow related to a member of the group that Ben slaughtered. He had probably only recently arrived, probably just that morning, and would probably meet the party at the "dinner" scheduled for that night.

[itches]

You have to understand that I have yet to obtain the freakish ability of itches to repeatedly post without really saying anything.

One day my son, you too will posses the power of nothing.

[itches]

Hey BP, Blarth wouldn't have happened to killed anyone back in his history has he?

As far as I can tell, only he and Nicos aren't killers.

[Gralhruk]

He just killed a bunch of Grimlocks.

[itches]

People I meant, in a murderish type way.

[Gralhruk]

"Oh look at me, I'm so different, I'm not haunted by people I killed."

[itches]

Well can you be haunted by the fact that you woke up one day missing an arm? I'm feeling a little left out here

[Cadrius]

I'm feeling a little left out here

Har, har. Isn't his left arm missing?

Yes, that's a very succinct way to put it. Cadrius killed Ben and his betrothed in a duel gone awry.

The OOC thread is almost meaningless to read unless you're interested in the various inter-player conflicts we've gone through. The only useful bit that you can really gleam from that section is that this game is run via group consensus.

IC-wise, it'd be useful to read the past couple chapters but yeah, Chapter 5 is really the best one to get up to speed on things. We won't even go into anything before the Brotherhood of the Mud.

And why aren't Morlocks people, too? I'm sure they have evil wives and evil children waiting for them at home.

[Gralhruk]

The OOC is indeed quite meaningless to read, but if you are a glutton for punishment there is an amusing passage or two to be found.

The IC is by far more interesting, and I highly recommend reading as much as possible. It will definitely help you understand the style of the game. And it's Fellowship of Mud.

And sure, you can be haunted by a missing arm. When you are ready for the big leagues, though, kill someone who doesn't deserve it and you'll have months of good in game material.

[Cadrius]

The key really, is to kill people in your past and then kill some more undeserving folks whilst in game. That's how to do angst.

"Sir Cadrius the Angstadin." I like the sound of that.

[Gralhruk]

Sounds like good material for a prestige class.

[Cadrius]

Brotherhood, fellowship, either way it's failed and all is lost. itches has fallen into darkness and Kulper has the ring.

[itches]

Fly you fools.

[itches]

I'm going to have Nicos off doing his own thing, so don't mind me unless you feel like joining in.

[Cadrius]

Ew. Pass on the freaky, one-armed bard sexcapade.

[itches]

Don't knock it untill you try it!

[Gralhruk]

Ew. Pass on the freaky, one-armed bard sexcapade.
I was going to post something, but I couldn't quite come up with a good way to say it. Cadrius seems to have captured it perfectly.

[itches]

Well fine then, be that way. You're no longer invited to participate. ;)

[Black Plauge]

Good.

[Gralhruk]

Well, that sort of puts a damper on things then. Every one armed bard sexcapade needs a requisite half-orc.

[itches]

What about that new guy? He might not be too wary of me yet.

[Cadrius]

He will be if he knows what's good for him.

[Gralhruk]

Besides, he's playing a human - not a chimp or a mermaid - so I doubt Nicos has any use for him.

[Cadrius]

That's...disturbing.

I thought such degenerate talk should be relegated to my game.

[Gralhruk]

This is your game too ;).

[red_dr4g0n94]

Hmm, well, as oyu can see i posted my character, now I just need to find a place to let him drop in. Metaphoricly speaking of course, as I doubt that I could drop inside of a mountain. Unless it was a volcano. But that has it's own problems.

Anyway, I think I'll have our ever(?)-friendly bard get the first meeting. After all, what better place to find someone than at the library?

[Black Plauge]

Don't say we didn't warn you.

[red_dr4g0n94]

I'll make sure all the blame falls on itches

[Black Plauge]

Hmm... You seem to be a point short on your ability scores. I'm only counting 29 points, not 30. Other than that though, it looks good at first glance. I'll finish nitpicking later.

[itches]

blaming little old me. You're fitting in already ;)

[red_dr4g0n94]

Hmm...well, maybe it's becuase you didn't see were I put my bonus point. My original stats opnly had him with a Wisdom of 11, used that to increase it to 12. Just seems to make more sense that he gained a lot of wisdom in the several years he took to travel to this wizard stronghold.

And parodn me if it's already been asked, but is this setting in Fearun or Greyhawk? Cause my knowledge of greyhawk geography is even worse than my knowledge of fearun geography....

[Gralhruk]

Neither. We just make the geography up as we go along.

[itches]

We're set in a world of our own creation. We're molding it as we go along.

And if anyone was wondering, I'm going somewhere with the Nicos thing, so don't mess it up or I'll start singing love ballads!

[red_dr4g0n94]

Cool. Now to see if I can actually write something up that gets my character introduced...

[Gralhruk]

I'm going somewhere with the Nicos thing
Unheard of!

Besides, how can we avoid messing it up if we don't know what you are doing?

[itches]

Stop poking it with flaming sticks?

[itches]

To sum it up. Gemoud was sent to scout out Nicos for possible membership. She was chosen because she seemed to most likly to captivate his interest.

[Gralhruk]

Thanks. Now to think of a good way to muck it up . . .

[itches]

*looks up the lyrics for Mandy*

[red_dr4g0n94]

Hmm...I don't know why, but compared to some of the other posts around here mine just feels kinda dry. But unless Nicos reveals he's a bard, I somehow doubt that Ben would really run into the group until this whole dinner thing gets going.

just 2 things FYI for everyone else who cares. 1) Ben is tryin' to figure out just what the hell that thing on his shield is, since it's previous owner was a dwarf. Ben hasn't the slightest at it's particular meaning, but he thinks it might have something to do with when the dwarfs first got started, but I don't think he'll find anything, unless Nicos knows something about it.

2) I was intending on the dinner being kinda somber, with the announcement that several of their members *caugh*Ben's group*cough* so whenever it is we get to the dinner that's what I think should happen.

That is, unless the lot of you don't think it would work...

[itches]

Don't worry about comparing your posts to everyone elses. I used to do it and it used to drive me insane that I couldn't match up, so I killed them all.

... ah I mean ... *runs*

[DiceMaster542]

:cool: Howdy-ho, fellow Dungeon Crawlers! Wassup, i'm new here! Whatcha talking 'bout?

[itches]

Well it could have landed in the IC thread I suppose.

[Gralhruk]

We do attract the most interesting visitors.

[Gralhruk]

Okay folks, it has been brought to my attention that it might be time for a new chapter. Rather than wait until we actually find Cadogan, I'm thinking we should probably have Chapter 5 end when we reached the Citadel.

Any objections? If not, how about some suggestions for the name of Chapter 6?

[itches]

The Citadel.

itches and some other people.

[Gralhruk]

The Citadel
Inventive ;).

[itches]

as opposed to "the search for Cadogan" ?

[Gralhruk]

You can see why I put the name up for discussion. I'm hoping I'm not the most creative person here.

[itches]

the realm of the brotherhood?

[Cadrius]

It really depends on how long we want this thing to go on and in what manner.

Spells and Secrets.

Arcane Intrigue.

Solace.

You get the idea.

[Gralhruk]

Hmmm. How about something like "Uneasy Solace"?

[itches]

is it an uneasy solace?

[Gralhruk]

Well, it's far more comfortable than what they have been used to lately. Judging by all the paranoia though, I can't say it's exactly relaxing.

[itches]

There's no reason for everyone to be parinoid. It's just a secret society of powerfull men, who's secret headquaters we have intruded upon.

[Gralhruk]

How about "Dreaded Solace"?

I also like "Arcane Intrigue".

[Black Plauge]

Either sounds good to me.

[itches]

There's ntohing wrong with my one!

Though this talk of parinoia gives me a plot idea.

[Gralhruk]

True, there isn't anything wrong with yours - it's quite similar to most of our other "no frills" chapter titles, but I was hoping for something that captures the spirit of this game a little better.

[itches]

Well it's hard to capture the spirt of a chapter when we don't know what's going to happen. That's the advantage of naming a chapter after it is finished, you can accuratly fit a title. Naming it before the fact however, is much harder and you have to make it more bland and general.

How about "Secrets of the Brotherhood" ?

[Gralhruk]

True. I'm all for renaming the old chapters.

And "Secrets of the Brotherhood" could work.

[itches]

Here's hoping that Shade doesn't slice and dice our favorate bard :\

[Cadrius]

Originally posted by Gralhruk
True. I'm all for renaming the old chapters.

And "Secrets of the Brotherhood" could work.


Shh! Don't encourage him!

[Black Plauge]

Paranoia reigns supreme.

[Cadrius]

Nicos grasps the woman in what looks to be a casual hold, but is firm enough to brook no disobedience.

That's a good way to lose the other arm.

[itches]

I'm hoping she'll be a bit hesitent to maim the already crippled man in frount of people ^.^;

[Cadrius]

She is a little shy about public maiming, maybe he'll get off easy and she'll just club him with a chair.

[Gralhruk]

Or maybe she will finally give in to her innermost desires.

And I like my new thread title.

[itches]

And skip the maining, go right for killing?

And love the thread name!

[red_dr4g0n94]

the bard quickly screws a simple question.

Gee, I knew that Nicos was good with women, but he's even good enough to get some from a piece of paper apparently.

[Gralhruk]

And skip the maining, go right for killing?
Are my characters so transparent?

[itches]

damn spellcheck, always betraying me.

[Gralhruk]

Proofreading is an underrated pursuit.

[red_dr4g0n94]

Indeed.

[itches]

Why proof read when Word will do it for me?

[red_dr4g0n94]

Well, that mistake is a pretty good example

[itches]

No that's what i meant to type. Nicos hasn't had any in a while, and is starting to get desperate. ;)

[Gralhruk]

Yes, well, he better keep his pants on or he might lose another member.

[itches]

This is going to be an interesting reply

Edit: I was being liberal with what Prestidigitation can do.

[Gralhruk]

Ah, stumped you didn't I?

[itches]

Nope, everything is going according to plan.

*rubs hands*

[Gralhruk]

So long as it doesn't involve any vampires . . .

[itches]

Oh, well I can come up with a new one.

Over all I think that went rather well.

[red_dr4g0n94]

Dun-dun-dun! A small key (mostly names) into Ben's past! Probably all that your gonna get for a while, so you'll just have to sastisfy your curiosity on that bit of knowledge for the time being.

[itches]

Kill your freinds, and steal their stuff. Good plan :yum:

[red_dr4g0n94]

What? Betrayal is the best source of rare and valuable items that you are incapable of stealing and/or getting by yourself!

[Gralhruk]

Indeed.

At any rate, I'm enjoying your posts so far :).

And it looks like we should all be at the library soon, so that ought to make it easier for us to meet Ben.

[itches]

You're doing much better then I was when I originally joined at any rate ;)

[Cadrius]

I've always found the concept of killing monsters and taking their stuff to be really amusing. Apparently evil beings have no right to own property.

[Gralhruk]

And it's perfectly acceptable for good beings to relieve them of any property they happen to acquire ;). I was involved in a heated alignment debate (aren't they all?) over this. I was postulating that the vast majority of adventurers ought to be neutral rather than good, since they were typically forced to make choices that just could not be considered "good".

[itches]

That depends. Could the taking of the items help out the greater good? If so it's still "good" just not of the imediate nature.

[Gralhruk]

Which means that the immediate nature is not good. The means does not justify the end for good people. That is, killing Bob to save Fred and Harry doesn't make killing Bob a good act. Killing him is still bad, it's just less bad than letting Fred and Harry die.

[itches]

No, it means there are more then one type of good. Yes killing Bob is a bad thing, which is what is meant to inspire hero's to be .. heroic. If there is no other choice beside chosing between Bob or Fred and Harry, it's both a good and a bad act. As well as being Tragic.

But this is why hero's are who they are, being good isn't the easist path to take, and the fact that people manage to stay on the strait and narrow while faced with the world is what makes them great.

[Cadrius]

Originally posted by itches
That depends. Could the taking of the items help out the greater good? If so it's still "good" just not of the imediate nature.

What's best for all is not always what's good. See "Chaotic Good." In your example Bob would likely find the intention of killing him to be pretty damn not good. While Fred and Harry would likely find it acceptable.

The act of kiling Bob is bad, period. However the result of saving Fred and Harry is good. There's a difference.

[Gralhruk]

3e has clarified alignment somewhat, making things less difficult for good adventurers. In particular, they've basically stated that killing an evil creature is a good act. Where things get murky are in the interpretation of how tied to a particular alignment a given race is. For example, orcs are listed as chaotic evil. Does that mean every orc everywhere is evil? If so, then morally, slaying them isn't an issue for good folks. It becomes an issue when their alignment is due to environment or individual disposition - when some orcs might be neutral or even good.

[Cadrius]

3e shot itself in the foot when it defined "always" as "99% of the time." Always means always, not "basically all the time but here's an exception should your PCs want to do something different." This complicates the acceptability of killing evil creatures in Gral's example. 1% of a population not being evil is pretty big. If you wipe out a hundred orcs, statistically one of them wasn't such a bad guy.

They should have fixed so that always means always (and thus still subject to Rule 0), or changed it to usually.

[itches]

Assuming the 'good' characters don't arbitrarily decide to go out and slay all Orc's everywhere, if an Orc is neutral or good, it's actions wouldn’t be such as to have the character killing it.

Baring a horrible situation, which doesn't occur in a perfect world.

[Gralhruk]

Which brings me back to the "adventurer's are neutral" territory :).

They are basically good people, but are willing to live with the idea that the orc they kill in his sleep might not be a bad guy.

[Cadrius]

It's not uncommon to see the debate over at 3eBB (at least when I used to go there) regarding the morality of a paladin slaying an entire goblin warren, which would include women and children. Statistically you're going to be killing some that are not/would not be evil.

We hear it all the time, a good person falls in with "the wrong crowd." The same is true here. Maybe the good/neutral orc is a scout and doesn't do much killing. Maybe he only steals from settlements and leaves the maiming to his bloodthirsty comrades. There's plenty of reasons for a non-evil creature to be with evil ones, particularly if objecting would lead to them being killed.

[itches]

Do the characters know that the orc they are killing in their sleep, don't go and pillage the local villages?

If they have good reson to think that the orcs are evil, then if they unknowingly kill a good one, is that an evil act? Innocent's and bystanders die during war

This whole line of thinking leads to the only truly good characters are the one's who live in a cave, well away from any of these questions. However that then leads onto the question of them really being good if they can sit there knowing there is evil in the world.

So yeah ... neutral.

[Cadrius]

That's exactly the point, they don't know. Even in a fantasy game, death is a very brutal and usually a very permanent action. It shouldn't be treated lightly.

As far as neutral, well, that's debatable. 3e defines neutral people as those that will do what's necessary to protect their loved ones, but won't risk their necks for those they don't know. Okay, that follows. So how do we define PCs who go in and slaughter orcs, knowing they could be killing non-evil ones, who have been raiding and killing local villagers?

The intent is good. They're helping out people they don't know for little or no gain.

The action is neutral. Yeah, they're waxing bad guys but there's probably a few that aren't that bad. Thus it's a muddy area.

What could they do instead? Find a non-violent way of driving off the orcs, either via diplomacy, single-combat, or other scare tactics. It ruins some of the heroism of fantasy games, I know, but if you really want to get into morality you're going to have to be faced with the fact that fighting is a last-resort sort of deal.

[Gralhruk]

This whole line of thinking leads to the only truly good characters are the one's who live in a cave, well away from any of these questions. However that then leads onto the question of them really being good if they can sit there knowing there is evil in the world.
Exactly. As written, alignment falls apart under when put under scrutiny. The thing to do is not over analyze it, but rather to have the DM make some rulings before you start playing. For example, killing good orcs is okay provided you believe there is a good chance they are evil; killing orc women and children is evil unless they are directly attacking you.

[Gralhruk]

As far as neutral, well, that's debatable. 3e defines neutral people as those that will do what's necessary to protect their loved ones, but won't risk their necks for those they don't know.
That's always been the way I define chaotic good :). To me neutral (as regards good and evil) means you generally want to help people, but you aren't above helping yourself first if push comes to shove. You have respect for life, but you respect your own life more than an orcs - especially since he is probably evil and will probably kill you if he wakes up.

[itches]

Take intent, action, outcome, mix it all together and see what you have.

If you indend to save the local villages by getting rid of the orcs = good.

The killing of the most likly evil orcs is muddy so = Nuetral

Say it results in the village being saved = good.
OR having the Orc tribes relitives avange the death by raising the village to the ground = bad.

Too many actions which are meant to be good, done in a questionable manner, and which have a bad or questionable result would end up effecting an alignment change upon your character.

[itches]

The basic definition for them all that I always worked with was

Good = Helping others.
Nuetral = helping yourself without harming others.
Evil = Helping yourself by harming others.

[Gralhruk]

And in case anyone was wondering, I was rather hoping that my humorous thread title would prompt people to voice their opinion on what we should really call it.

[itches]

You mean that isn't going to be the real name? :o

[Cadrius]

I disagree. I think both neutral and evil people will help others, but only those that they care about. Arguing that an orc, beholder, dragon, or otherwise is incapable of love is ludicrous. The difference between neutral and evil people is that the evil ones will occasionally screw over those around them, while neutrals tend to have more objections to such things.

"itches bitches" works pretty well, actually.

[Gralhruk]

Good = Helping others.
Nuetral = helping yourself without harming others.
Evil = Helping yourself by harming others.
Which is more or less the way I see it. The thing is, there are relative positions within each category. A really good person might help others even if it means giving his own life; a mildly good person might help others if it involves hard work. It is difficult to distinguish between people at the bottom end of good and people at the top end of neutral. Not only that, but I think there is a degree of lateral movement within each category as well. For example, a "left wing" good person might be willing to sacrifice his life for an individual, because they believe in the sanctity of life; a "right wing" good person might be willing to sacrifice his life for a good cause.

[Gralhruk]

The difference between neutral and evil people is that the evil ones will occasionally screw over those around them, while neutrals tend to have more objections to such things.
It's all in your definition of "screw over". Evil people won't be bothered if folks are injured, maimed, or killed - maybe they won't want people close to them to be injured, maimed, or killed, but they have no compunction over most others getting the axe. Neutral folks, on the other hand, generally won't want to see harm come to others because of their action but if it happens they'll be sad about it and move on.

[itches]

Whilst good people will mope and be full of angst? :p

And there needs to be more posting int he game thread, and less posting here!

[Gralhruk]

Hey, I'm waiting on a naked ex-paladin.

[Cadrius]

By those around them, I meant those close to their twisted, black hearts. In general nobody wants those that they care about to have harm come to them. Where the alignments begin to differentiate is what people are willing to do to/for strangers. Good people tend to help or die. Neutral people tend to avoid specifically harming them. Evil people generally don't give a crap. I think that's a safe generalization.

But would neutral people be sad about it? I'm not sure. Look at our own culture. "A man was killed in a tragic baking accident today." Do you feel sad for him? For his family? For those who knew him, even if you did not? I do, anyway, but that might be another issue altogether. I think about that sometimes which is why I believe that people are inherently neutral. We care about those that we know and love. Sure we claim to care about everyone, but at the end of the day it's about who's in your life. Would the average person care about a man being killed by pastries? It's an absurdist death, to be sure, but one all the same. Parallels could be drawn to real life, but I'll avoid those examples in the spirit of good taste.

Bah, fuck it. We play in this fantasy world for a reason. To hell with reality. I wanna kill things.

[Gralhruk]

Alright! Let's kill some wizards!

[itches]

...right.

Nicos is going to be in the other room if you need him.

[Cadrius]

One naked, fallen paladin, coming right up!

[Gralhruk]

That's sounds pretty bad.

[Cadrius]

Welcome to Eidolon: Degenerates

[Gralhruk]

It's spilling over from Deadwatch. Good thing Dirigible isn't here.

[Cadrius]

It's a blessed fact that I acknowledge daily. The last thing we need is that mind-bullet slinging, fishnet wearing whackjob here.

[red_dr4g0n94]

Good lord! I leave you people alone for not even 24 hours and you go off and totally different deviate from the direction of this thread!

That is, if it had a direction to begin with, but we won't even go into that...

[Black Plauge]

This is the OOC, it never had a direction.

Anyway, I'll leave the whole good vs. evil debate alone since I seem to have missed it, despite having a very diffrent set of views on it.

I might post some kind of filler post later on today or tommorow, provided no one comes back to the refactory to pick up Blarth.

[itches]

I was going to wait to give you time to post what he was doing in there with Gemoud before having Nicos re-intrude.

[red_dr4g0n94]

And I'm waiting for everyone else to get to the library. Or post. Whichever comes first.

[Black Plauge]

Okay, alset. Now if some one would be so kind as to walk in and save Blarth from further embarassment.

[Gralhruk]

The troops should be there shortly.

[Cadrius]

I thought Blarth thrived while experiencing embarassment?

[Cadrius]

Should I presume itches will handle the introductions from his bardic sexcapa--I mean, fascinating NPC?

[itches]

Nope, feel free to go ahead and do it. Mean less typing for me.

[itches]

*slow clapping*

[Cadrius]

Nice title. Sadly I think those are some secrets I could do without.

We probably ought to come up with something vaguely appropriate in the near future.

[Gralhruk]

Itches suggested "Secrets of the Brotherhood" which I think works quite nicely. I thought I'd try this variation out first to see what sort of reaction it generated.

[itches]

When you get home today, I'll be waiting for you...

[Gralhruk]

Alright: that brief, shining moment in the history of thread titles is gone.

[Cadrius]

You don't want to call it "Cadrius, Man-Whore Extrordinaire"? I'm shocked and hurt.

I agree though, itches title works well.

[Gralhruk]

That will be SubChapter 6a.

[Cadrius]

If we have a bardic sexcapade, the least we could do is have a fallen paladin gigolo.

*sigh* Degenerate, indeed.

[Gralhruk]

the least we could do is have a fallen paladin gigolo
Hey, if you are going to fall you might as well have fun with it.

[itches]

I need to think up a compensating joke about Cadrius' sword.

[Cadrius]

Don't strain yourself.

[itches]

I think i need sleep. Or caffine. Actually i need to mow the lawn, but that wont help me.

[Cadrius]

Or you could post, but that's a bit unorthodox.

[itches]

I was going to, but I seemed to have passed out at some stage. And someone must have snuck in and turned my PC off, which just doesn't make sense.

[Cadrius]

One of these days I'm going to introduce you to a world of pain, and then make you live there.

[itches]

Will this World of Pain have icecream?

[Gralhruk]

And pixie sticks.

[itches]

Okay, someone owes me Pixie sticks.

[Black Plauge]

There, is that naive enough for Shade's purposes?

[Gralhruk]

As always, you manage to impress me with Blarthism :).

Anyway, the naive thing wasn't meant to be a cue for you - it's what was going through Shade's mind but I wasn't sure which way you'd go with Blarth's reaction. If I was looking to influence your post I would have let you know in the OOC.

[Cadrius]

I couldn't resist the urge to propose that Nicos would try and seduce an apple.

[itches]

I love it :fun:

[red_dr4g0n94]

Now all we need is a pair of melons to walk into the refactory...

[Cadrius]

That's disturbing. I think I can see why you were attracted to this game.

Anyway, Cadrius has already made his move. Time for the retort about how many times Nicos has made love to apples. That spoony bard. Or perhaps his lover, Shade, will respond.

[red_dr4g0n94]

Of course it's disturbing. To do anything less would have been a gross failure on my part...

[Gralhruk]

For my own personal edification (and also for some posting consistency), were Shade, Nicos and Gemoud able to hear Cadrius' comment? I got the impression he said that to Blarth over by the food table, and in my mind I assumed that only Blarth could hear him.

[Cadrius]

I presumed that they would.

[Black Plauge]

Well, that is certianly a most unusual barb.

And I didn't take my cue from your post, Gral. I had already been planning something like what I posted when I read it. So not to worry, you don't have nearly as much influence as you think you do.

[Gralhruk]

WORSHIP ME!

BECOME MY WILLING THRALL!

:)

[red_dr4g0n94]

Isn't "willing thrall" an oxymoron? I thought thrall essentially meant "unwilling slave"...

[Gralhruk]

From Webster.com

Main Entry: 1thrall
Pronunciation: 'throl
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English thral, from Old English thræl, from Old Norse thræll
1 a : a servant slave : BONDMAN; also : SERF b : a person in moral or mental servitude
2 a : a state of servitude or submission <in thrall to his emotions> b : a state of complete absorption <mountains could hold me in thrall with a subtle attraction of their own -- Elyne Mitchell>
- thrall adjective
- thrall·dom or thral·dom /'throl-d&m/ noun

Edit: SHUDDER AT MY DAUNTING THRALLDOM!

[red_dr4g0n94]

Well then, by all means please continue with your thralldom then.

[Cadrius]

Gral, you little trollop, put that vocabulary to good use and post.

[Gralhruk]

I was waiting for itches. I suppose I should know by now that waiting for itches is a bad idea.

[Cadrius]

A mistake you shall live to regret...or something.

[Gralhruk]

Maeko, I assumed that Maryam would join us. If not let me know and I'll edit accordingly.

[Cadrius]

What the hell?! Do we actually have more than three people in this game again? I don't know what to do with myself.

[Gralhruk]

I'll think of something.

BECOME MY WILLING THRALL!

[red_dr4g0n94]

As much as I hate to break up this wonderful bout of self-doubt, I would like to point out that until these folks actually get to the library (and at this rate, I may be an old man when that happens) then Ben is probably still reminescing. And if oyu already knew that, well then, this is simply an attempt to boost my post total. :P

[Cadrius]

Thus the joy of waiting on itches. It tooks months for us to get to the Citadel. We were thinking it'd take weeks at most. So it might be another day or so until we get to the library (or until you get fed up and come out).

Eidolon's a beautiful game, but when it drags, it drags.

[red_dr4g0n94]

Don't all PbP games though? I mean, the very nature of PbP games makes it so that more time passes in the real world than in the game world. When these games get going IRL, it's usually the other way around, but then again, you don't get enarly the kind of character depth there as you get here. I was just telling you guys, cause I just can't really think up a good reason for my guy to go to the Refactory...

[Gralhruk]

Maybe he's hungry ;).

I was just mentioning to Cadrius the other day about one of my other games. I've been in it for two years and in that time I've leveled twice. I found out the other day that only 5 game days have passed since I joined. I was somewhat flabbergasted.

[itches]

*Crawls out of a ditch naked*

oww, my head.

[Black Plauge]

Drank you meals again?

[itches]

No, just trying to come up with reasons for me to not post :)

[Black Plauge]

Well, in that case. Post you lazy son of a

[itches]

I actually use the handle "Sonof" on IRC :)

[red_dr4g0n94]

As fascinating as that bit of trivia is, I'll have to quote one of my friend's oft said statements.

"POST YOU MONKEY!!!!" :angry:

[itches]

look, santa!
http://www.angelfire.com/psy/darkside/pics/christmas.gif

[red_dr4g0n94]

Is he always this hard to motivate?

[Black Plauge]

Yes. You'll get used to it.

[itches]

The problem isn't motivating me to post, it's me not knowing what to post.

[Cadrius]

The problem isn't motivating me to post, it's me not knowing what to post.

Well, clearly you can see what Shade and Cadrius are up to. Why don't you roll with it from there? Gemoud is your little girl-in-red after all.

[itches]

Well I'm copping out for a day or two, I'll try to get a post up from my destination.

If not, i'll be back in about 48 hours.

[itches]

Okay I posted. I expect my cat returned unharmed, and in one piece!

[Gralhruk]

That shouldn't be a problem. Now, where did I put that thread?

[Black Plauge]

Not sure where you put the thread, but I've got the staple gun.

[Gralhruk]

Give my creation LIFE!!!!!

[Black Plauge]

Clear!

[Cadrius]

This exchange is both confusing and disturbing. Given the thread, I probably shouldn't be surprised by it.

[Gralhruk]

Have you never seen Young Frankenstein?

[Cadrius]

He would have an enormous schwanzstucker!

[Gralhruk]

That goes without saying.

[Cadrius]

He's going to be very popular.

[Black Plauge]

At least among women.

I don't know that that'll win him many points among men (at least not straight ones).

[red_dr4g0n94]

Hopefully we won't actually get a chance to give him any points either

[Black Plauge]

In case anyone wants to notice and it wasn't obvious enough in my posts, Blarth has eaten both the orange and apple entire. No core or skins left over.

[red_dr4g0n94]

Isn't that bad for you? As in, it makes you the opposite of healthy?

[itches]

Not that I recall.

Besides, he's a half-orc. I'm sure their digestive systems could handle it.

[Cadrius]

I've always wondered how tough the digestive systems of the "evil" races are. I mean, shit. Orcs like their meat ultra rare. Don't even cook it. Just drag it through a warm room.

[Gralhruk]

I'd say akin to some of our typical predators: wolves, lions, hyenas. My dog can eat some horribly disgusting decomposing stuff and it's pretty rare that he can't keep it down.

[Cadrius]

I'd agree and that's the first thing I thought of when I pondered their culinary preferences. I still admire their intestinal fortitude.

To return to the quoting.

"You must be Igor."
"No, it's pronounced 'Eye-gor.'"

[Gralhruk]

"I'm quite a skilled surgeon, you know. I could fix that hump for you."

"What hump?"

---------

"Damn your eyes!"

"Already done."

------------

"Throw the third switch!"

"Not . . . not the third switch!"

[itches]

You guys aren't waiting for me to post are you?

[Black Plauge]

I don't think you have to be next, but you, Gral, and Cadrius are trying to give your hussy the boot, so I think one of you should be up next.

That or I suppose Maeko could go next.

Either way, I just posted so I'm definately waiting on somebody.

[Cadrius]

Hmm, let me mull things over. Gral, if you feel inspired feel free to take the initiative.

[Gralhruk]

Because I am clearly inspired :\.

[itches]

You could always jump ahead to the cat fight.

and stop PMing yourself and post in my Uploading thread

[Gralhruk]

It was just begging for immaturity, and I figured I'd try and contain myself until I came up with a real answer.

[itches]

There would have been much in the way of smiting at the joke answers.

[red_dr4g0n94]

Well, no one should be waiting for me...

[Gralhruk]

Ah, prodding.

Prodding is good.

[Gralhruk]

Okay, not exactly my finest work but it puts the group en route to the library, sans Shade. I'll put her interaction with Gemoud along with her entrance to the library in my next post.

[itches]

Does Shade know how to get there?

[Gralhruk]

I thought of that, but I decided that moving the story forward was more important than directions to the library.

[Black Plauge]

Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

[itches]

I read the post and now my eyes are bleeding!

[Gralhruk]

I guess I'll take that as a compliment.

[itches]

Well, I supose I can't help the way you're going to take it.

[Gralhruk]

But you could POST in the IC. Of course, you don't have to. By end of day, though, I anticipate moving the game forward once more (and hijacking any characters who have not posted for themselves).

[itches]

SMUG!

[Black Plauge]

I'm good. Blarth'll tag along. Not that he has any real intrest in the library.:)

[itches]

Smuuuuuug!

[Black Plauge]

Any one else seeing the site in something similar to reverse polish notation?

[itches]

go (http://www.online-roleplaying.com/forums/showpost.php?p=56526&postcount=360)

[red_dr4g0n94]

Hasn't the end of the day come and gone already?

[Gralhruk]

Yes, I was going to post last night but that damned board reversal thing gave me a headache. At any rate, I'm mulling over a couple of things. In the meantime, though, feel free to post. Have the others show up at the library, although I'd appreciate it if you didn't post Shade's entrance just yet.

[Cadrius]

Indeed nobody does a melodramatic entrance like Gral does.

[itches]

Gods, I havn't posted in character for what feels like ages, but I can't think of anything to have Nicos do. :(

Quickly someone, inspire me at least enough for me to make a pointless 'filler' post.