Vampire: the Masquerade

[bodog]

Would anybody be interested in a Vampire: the Masquerade game here? I might be able to run one if there is enough interest :)

[TreyKincaide]

Sure I'm game! I love Vampire.

[Darius]

I'd be interested. Which version of the rules would you be using?

[bodog]

3rd edition most likely, that was the last one they released I believe.

TreyKincaide - you're in :)

I'll take a max of 6 players and will be posting the plot either tomorrow or thursday.

[Darius]

Count me in as well then. I feel a need to get my angst on.

[TreyKincaide]

Hmmm. What to play? What to play? *starts scraping the depths for concepts*

[bodog]

You're in Darius. That's two players so far :)


Any more takers?

EDIT: Please take note that this will be a Camarilla campaign. Independants will be acceptable, however Sabbat kindred will not be allowed...at least for now :)

[Lando The Archmagi]

EDIT: Please take note that this will be a Camarilla campaign. Independants will be acceptable, however Sabbat kindred will not be allowed...at least for now :)

What's the setting (city/rural/modern/medieval)? Are we playing elders or neonates? I'm an experienced Storyteller and player (also playtested for White Wolf's Vampire/Werewolf lines). I'd like to play a Gangrel if possible or a Verbena mage/shifter if any crossover stuff is permitted.

[Thanos]

Lando, get your butt down to our RIFTs game, DANG IT!




;-)


Moderate interest here, mostly depends on what the anwswers to Lando's questions might be.

[Benicus]

And to Conanonanananao!

Sorry just lurking

[bodog]

The setting will be modern city-based (exact city TBA). Most likely somewhere in California (possibly San Fransisco) but I may go with somewhere in Europe (this will be announced before character creation begins, I should know for sure later today/early tomorrow).

Everybody will be playing young vamps. You won't be freshly-turned vamps though (i.e. you've been a kindred for a few months to a few years).

Gangrel is fine, any of the non-sabbat clans is going to be allowed.

As for crossovers I have to say no because I don't have the books on the other systems.

[AoM]

OH HELL YES!

Been waiting for a strict vampire game.

Please count me in!

[AoM]

Will there be a strict generation cap, given that we're supposed to be young vamps?

[bodog]

Well we'll be doing character creation as per the core rules (so you can take the Generation background) with the following revisions:

1) Once your "new" vampire is made (i.e. you've done the standard character creation process), roll 4d6+1 to determine your age since the Embrace (in months). This will mean you were embraced 5-25 months ago.

2) Depending on your age, you will have the following benefits:

5-14 months: No generation change.

15-23 months: You may take a free "Generation" dot - OR - gain 10 bonus experience points

24-25 months: You may take two free "Generation" dots - OR - gain 1 Generation dot and 10 bonus experience points - OR - gain 25 bonus experience points.

3) You gain bonus experience points equal to 2x your kindred age. So if you were 11 months old as a kindred, you would gain 22 experience points.

Example: Bob rolls 25 for age. He has the following options:

-He can take (25x2) 50 experience points and 2 Generation dots or
-He can take (25x2) 50 experience points and 1 Generation dot and 10 more experience points
-He can take (25x2) 50 experience points and 25 more experience points.

Special Rule: These bonus experience points cannot be used to purchase the "Generation" dot. I don't allow players to purchase this background beyond what they selected during their original character creation. If you want to lower your generation, you have to do it the old fashion way by sucking on another kindred.

However, if you took Generation 3 during character creation and then rolled 24 or 25 for age, you may boost that to Generation 5 (giving you an 8th Generation kindred).

This will give the group probably one or two quite strong kindred, and several "better than newbie" kindred.

[Belkregos]

i'll have to dig up my vampire books but save a spot for me

[bodog]

So far we have:

TreyKincaide
Darius
AoM
Belkregos

I'll take a max of two more players.

Additional Campaign Information:

The campaign will be commencing in Berlin, Germany. I'll be putting up a description of the plot shortly.

[Mad Martigan]

What if you want to play a Harbinger of Skulls from the Sabbat Handbook, they have to start off at least 8th generation, and i have rules for them and would have to use the Dark Ages book for generation since they dont make modern night vampires. Just a question cause I like playing them and they are a interesting group. Oh and they aren't actually sabbat they have a long streak of revenge against the Giovanni thats why they joined the Sabbat but if you wont allow one then thats cool if i could play something else if you had any openings for a player still.

[Xaden]

I'd love to join, the White Wolf games are amazing! But I currently only own 2nd edition V:TM, how out of date will I be? Could I still play using 2nd ed. or will I be too out of date? Is it possible that I could be updated or someone could give me the missing information? If there's any possibility of me joining without screwing things up or what-have-you while owning only 2nd ed. I'd love to play, otherwise, I guess you'll have to go on without me (but look at my sig! I love Vampire! Show me some Humanity.)

[bodog]

Mad Mardigan - I'm going to have to say no to the Harbringers. As you said they are required to be 8th generation or lower and the book actually says "Unless the Storyteller plans on running an elders game, it is impossible to create a Harbinger of Skulls under the new character generation system." There is space for you though, but you'll have to play a different clan.

Xaden - I'm not really sure what is different from 2nd to 3rd. I doubt that it's a very big difference though, so you should be able to play if you are interested.

[Mad Martigan]

alright just thought i would ask but let me look into it and see if i can find something i would like to play. I'll get back to ya

[Mad Martigan]

To bad it's strictly vampires cause I can make a wicked Mokole, but how about a Kindred of the East are they allowed to be played, oh also are there any limits on merits and flaws? Reason I ask about the Kindred of the East is because they are slightly more hardcore then your average vampires.

[AoM]

Xaden - The differences between 2nd and 3rd are a revised combat system and a few slight tweaks (things like Malkavians getting Dementation instead of Dominate). And there's a metaplot twist as well: Gangrel have seceded from the Camirilla and become independants, Ravnos has risen and been killed along with most of its clan, and all Tremere Antitribu have been killed off.

[AoM]

bodog- so if I take 5 in generation background and then roll an amazing 24-25, I become 6th generation? Are you sure you want that? Seems like some PCs might creep into elder territory.

I also own Kindred of the East, but it only came out in 2nd Ed. so some of its powers would be in need of tweaking. (Just offhand I know that the 3-dot Blood Shintai power essentially turns a 2nd edition damage into 3rd edition damage. (Which would be no bonus at all in 3rd edition.))

I doubt that there are many Keui-jin in Berlin, however. So we might be better off not including them.

What are people planning on playing? Should we attempt to get as much variety as possible?

[bodog]

Mad Martigan - you'll have to send me the info on the clan you want from the East. I don't have the sourcebook, but I'd be willing to review any material.

[Darius]

Against perhaps my better judgment, I am planning on playing a Malk.

[Belkregos]

how about a city gangrel?
would they be allowed?
if so, i may like to play one

[TreyKincaide]

I'm thinking I want to do "An American Vampire in Berlin" thing. Young American guy backpacking across Europe on five dollars a day comes to see the sites and never gets to leave. Haven't narrowed down clan yet, but I feel it's important to make a person first, kindred second. The more personal horror the better.

City Gangrel are a Sabbat bloodline.

I have a question. Are we going to be 6 members of a coterie? If the answer's yes, then yeah, trying to minimize the over lap is a good idea. Otherwise, it really doesn't matter.

[Xaden]

If someone hadn't already expressed interest in a Gangrel I would have jumped on that (Gangrel rock!), but I'd certainly be more than willing to play a Brujah, or maybe a Malkavian (though without Dominate, I'd need to think of a slightly different character concept than the one I was originally thinking of for the Malk).

[Mad Martigan]

wait a sec 2nd and 3rd edition vampire , you mean Vampire the Masquerade, and Vampire Requim cause i have both books or was there a 3rd edition to masquerade cause i dont think ive seen another remade masquerade main book. They mentioned that 2nd edition malkavians had dominate well in my book they have dementation.

[Xaden]

Opps! Looks like someone jumped on Malk's already, that's okay, 'cause Brujah are phun too!

[TreyKincaide]

Vampire:the Masquerade had a first, second, and third edition. First ed was only paperback. Second ed introduced the hard cover core book with the Camarilla 7 clans. Third edition was developed by Justin Achilles as Vampire: the Masquerade Revised Edition and had all 13 clans in the Time of Thin Blood.

Vampire: the Requiem has nothing to do with Masquerade save some mechanics and recycled names.

[bodog]

Wow lots of questions going on here lol...

bodog- so if I take 5 in generation background and then roll an amazing 24-25, I become 6th generation? Are you sure you want that? Seems like some PCs might creep into elder territory.

I just double checked the rules. In earlier editions you couldn't put more than 3 dots in any particular resource during character creation, I don't see that rule specified in the 3e book. But it's a rule I go by - you cannot put more than 3 dots in any resource during the preliminary character creation process.

As such, if you took Generation 3 and then rolled right, you would get Generation 5 at best.

how about a city gangrel?
would they be allowed?
if so, i may like to play one

The Sabbat book explicity states that almost all City Gangrel are Sabbat, with some being independant. It also says that City Gangrel that join the Camarilla tend to be victims of the Wild Hunt. I would rather avoid sending hundreds of angry gangrel out to kill you, so you cannot take this clan.

Are we going to be 6 members of a coterie? If the answer is yes, then yeah, trying to minimize the over lap is a good idea.

Yes you'll be a coterie. That doesn't mean we can't have two malkavians of whatever clan, play what you want. Vampire groups tend to work out regardless of your clan.

But I will say for this campaign it would be useful to have members of clan Ventrue, Brujah, and probably Tremere in the group.

[bodog]

Lets make this easy to avoid confusion - clans in the Sabbat book are disallowed for the time being. This is supposed to be a Camarilla campaign :)

[AoM]

Mad Martigan - You likely have 3rd ed. (Revised) Vampire: The Masquerade.

Hmm... What to play, what to play... I think I shall be a Ventrue. For some reason no one ever wants to play as them. So I shall remedy that.

[Mad Martigan]

no background can be above three without spending freebie points that you get during character ceation so you can have 5 dots in any background starting off if your willing to give up freebie points for it but you give a little bit to be that powerful. But I believe I'm going to be a gargoyle because they have sweet powers.

[Thanos]

OK I am in based on the above and will play a Tremere. If you don't want any magic in the game then I would play Nos or Vent.

[Belkregos]

lets see,
it would be interesting to play an assamite may go for that
would assamites be allowed?

[bodog]

Assamites are allowed yes, but bear in mind they can be tricky characters to keep alive :)

[Belkregos]

Assamites are allowed yes, but bear in mind they can be tricky characters to keep alive :)

sounds good!
i'll think of the details, either Assamite or Caitiff

to work on the background should we think its the modern world (current news?)

[bodog]

Thanos - Tremere would be good to have. So I'll let you in as the last player, totaling 7 vampires.

TreyKincaide
Darius
AoM
Belkregos
Mad Martigan
Xaden
Thanos

It will be very modern day, current news and events.


NO MORE PLAYERS ARE BEING ACCEPTED SORRY.

[Lando The Archmagi]

This will give the group probably one or two quite strong kindred, and several "better than newbie" kindred.


Well guess I got ignored, have fun.

[bodog]

Lando - my apologies. I must have misread your post on it being a conditional join based on the answer to your question about the plot. If you would like to play as a gangrel I will make a space for you.

Everybody that is going to play - please hold off on creating your characters until I get the forum and can post the rules/information. I have a few creation rules that I try to stick to, but I don't want to pm them to each person that is messaging me lol. So just hold off until the forum is up :)

Thanks :)

[Lando The Archmagi]

Lando - my apologies. I must have misread your post on it being a conditional join based on the answer to your question about the plot. If you would like to play as a gangrel I will make a space for you.

Yes you're partially right I did base my intention of joining on how you responded to my questions, but I would like to play if there is space. I certainly don't want to crowd you or overwhelm you. I know how it goes, having run many games currently and in the past. I might be reawakening my Werewolf game in the next month near Halloween...;)

[bodog]

The forum is up, everybody head over there.