OOC chat thread (Participants only pls)

[TreyKincaide]

Slacker jobs rule!

[Wired*Nun]

Go ahead with Heldrik.

[Wired*Nun]

Dang it all to heck. The GM and the player of the character my character is talking to are both online at the same time and I have to go back to work!!!!!

ARGGGGHHHHH!!!!!

I will be around Saterday morning and afternoon PST and likely late tonight...ah man...then again I should not even be home right now....

Where are your priorities, man!

[Wired*Nun]

Dang, guess he had to go for real. I'd like to give them a chance to get there before we go too far forward with the scene at the cathedral.

[Shutter]

This is why I've never approved of work. Just a bad idea all around.

[Wired*Nun]

Trey has graciously allowed a nice scene between Landon and Flora to be publicised, right around here, I set it back in its natural spot in the old thread.

http://online-roleplaying.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4596&page=6

[Wired*Nun]

This is why I've never approved of work. Just a bad idea all around.

Yes, work is a four-letter word. Ending in K, as well.

Being employed is much better than work. Some day, I will be employed gaming, somehow. Even if I have to pay to do it.

Does that seem right to you?

[Shutter]

Good plan there Dave.

And well done you two on the Flora-Landon scene.

[Wired*Nun]

Thanks. *bows*

[TreyKincaide]

Dun. Dun. Dunnnnnn. Nice twist!

[Wired*Nun]

hehe...Asmundson, you mean? Well you guys lost track of him...where else should he go but home to his patron?

And has it occurred to you where they are? :evil:

[Shutter]

In OOCspace Roland is yelling at me for not having seen to it that Asumundson was put under lock and key a long time ago.

[Wired*Nun]

Hehe...a moral, well-meaning fanatic is still a fanatic...I'm sure you can think of some RL examples.

[Shutter]

I don't trust fanatics. Particularly the moral well meaning ones. They're just more likely to get good but rational people caught up in their lunacy.

[Wired*Nun]

Agreed. Analogies to The Operative in Firefly (Serenity) - what Shepherd Book called "A Believer" with capital letters. Someone so fixed on the rightness of their cause they don't mind doing evil to be good, all the while blind to the means by way of ends.

[Wired*Nun]

And if you haven't seen Firefly and the movie wrap-up Serenity, I can't recommend it enough. It is an order or magnitude better than any sci-fi TV series come out in the last...oh, number of years. Shame it only went 1.25 seasons plus the movie.

[Shutter]

Such a great series. I keep looking around for a place to play the RPG, no luck yet.

[Wired*Nun]

I'm in the one active game here in OR, called A Ship Of Fools...though it goes slow so they haven't worked me in yet. Feel free to look up my character sketch, though.

On another note, I saw X3 yesterday...man, it rocked. Hard to believe they could top the first and second one but they did, with no compromises except the short lifespans of two of the characters.

[TreyKincaide]

I'm really digging on them and I'm up to disk 3. I can't get the 'Hero of Canton' out of my head. Damn, Jaynestown is a good episode. I find it particularly amusing as my home town, Kearney, MO, was the birthplace of Jesse James--the Confederate outlaw not the biker.

Your point about Asmundson the fanatic could indeed be applied to all the Amberites. There's nothing more dangerous than a man who believes he's in the right. Most villians don't characterize themselves as evil.

[Shutter]

Off to work for me. Don't go blowing up the universe while I'm out.

[LynMars]

Forgive the blatant manipulation, but part of the slow-roll has been trying to get/let the other PCs into the current conflict scene with Nightmare. That means that I really don't want more elders in because, to play them right, I kind of have to let them dominate things and that's not my intent here.

So, don't feel bad if you can't reach the people whom you would logically want to, it's a story thing.
That was kinda my worry about that, actually, when I made that post. Does Dave -really- wanna bring more Elders into this? Likely not, so...um...Yet, I didn't see Rae calling anyone else first, given the circumstances.

I figured you'd GM-fiat something if needed. And you did, which works fine. Provided, anyway, someone answers! :paranoid:

[Wired*Nun]

I think there's a difference between somoene who thinks he's right - after all, most of us do - and those who KNOW they are, in caps, no doubt about it. I mean, I think I'm right about things because either it's my best estimate based on the facts, or because I take something on faith, or often a synthesis of the two.

A fanatic is someone who denies reality to fit their preconceptions, and while we might debate the nature of denial, on most things, most people can agree. Cannibalism is bad. Kindness is good. It's when you start thinking cannibalism is good and kindess is bad...

[LynMars]

I'm really digging on them and I'm up to disk 3. I can't get the 'Hero of Canton' out of my head. Damn, Jaynestown is a good episode. I find it particularly amusing as my home town, Kearney, MO, was the birthplace of Jesse James--the Confederate outlaw not the biker.
You know what my response is going to be now, Mr "I didn't really care much for them before..." ? :roll:

[TreyKincaide]

I think we're saying the same thing, Dave.

And Lyn, I have been known to admit I was wrong before. It's just a rare occasion. :P

[Wired*Nun]

Fortunately, most gamers are more right about more things than wrong, IME. I think it comes from leading multiple lives. Maybe we acquire more layers of experience than the mundanes...

Freaking the Mundanes, Freaking the Mundanes, Who'll Come A-Freaking the Mundanes with Me...

[LynMars]

A lot of Firefly's initial problems were, if you look at the release schedule for the episodes, that they were horribly out of order. Also pre-empted a lot. I liked the pilot episode myself and think Fox was silly for saying it was "weak".

I find it interesting that a lot of the fans take many of the series' cut scenes--available on the last disk--as canon too. A lot of them were cut for time, mainly. Good stuff there--like Mal's obvious loss of faith in Serenity Valley ("God? Whose color's he flyin'?"), Zoe explaining Serenity to Simon, River being...River.

Now I just need a storyline, and steady time somewhere in my week when others can play too :S Darn evening job...

[Wired*Nun]

I think we're kind of stuck for now. I'll keep checking this evening for Thanos' post.

[Wired*Nun]

I'd like to let Landon and Heldrik talk for a bit before the trump call comes in.

[LynMars]

No problem! Time differential! Suspense!

[Thanos]

I am off to work for a few hours....should be back in 3 or less.

[LynMars]

Just waiting for the go-ahead here; cuz it could be Martin! :D But I doubt it, if we wanna get more PCs in the big showdown...

[Wired*Nun]

I am such a meanie...

[LynMars]

Eeep! You are! :eek:

[Thanos]

Sorry Trey, its the only think I could think of doing.....:-(

[Wired*Nun]

The best laid plans of mice and men are often screwed by the players' unexpected actions...:x

[TreyKincaide]

At least Landon's day finally ended.

[Thanos]

LOL...and what a sucky day it has been!

[Thanos]

I am hoping the Gray can give you a touch of help in the healing department and get you back on your feet to explain what was really going on.

[LynMars]

...Rae's a little, um...peeved. :paranoid:

[Wired*Nun]

Did the kitten's claws finally come out? Let's hope so.

[Wired*Nun]

Now if only Shutter will sign on...

[LynMars]

*Tries the 'Summoning Camera-Man Mantra'*

[Thanos]

I think that after Farriq goes down, the others will get some semblence of order and we will have a fight on our hands...but if he is dead and the most powerful of them is down, they should be quick work... or so I hope ;-)

[TreyKincaide]

I'm not going to be around too much longer. I need to get a hair cut and get ready to go out to see X3 and get my sister drunk on her 21st.

[Thanos]

WOOOT

X-3 is good, just remember to watch ALL of the credits...there is a little tidbit at the end that you will be interested in seeing ;-)

[LynMars]

I gotta work tonight! In about another hour, may be able to check back periodically, though. Suspense!

I wanna see that movie! ._. I've heard good and bad from several people I trust.

And tell Ash I said Happy 21st Birthday! :)

[TreyKincaide]

I'm out! Later!

[Wired*Nun]

Its about bedtime for me too, so we can leave this as a cliffhanger. Gnite.

[Shutter]

Morning movie date to X3 turned into lunch at a crappy restaurant which turned into shopping...and now I'm back.


Wow, quite a day to miss...Sorry:(

[LynMars]

No worries! Sounds like you had a good day, aside from the crappy restaurant, anyway.

Everyone's seen this movie but me...Guess I'm getting myself to the matinee tomorrow, although going to the movies alone always seems weird.

[Pygysys]

Hi all,

I have my last exam on June 14; so will be ready to return on the 15th.

Catch up with you all then.

P.S. I have seen X-Men 3. I've never really read the comics or watched the cartoons but I do enjoy the big screen adaptations. :)

[Shutter]

Gadzooks! It's Pygysys!

[Wired*Nun]

Hooray! Everything is suspended until the 15th!

Just kidding. However, as this one is bending, I doubt there will be final resolutions anyway. It needs to involve Kat anyway.

[LynMars]

Blah! My new post in our thread happened after reading Dave's, but before he posted that latest one in Landon and Heldrick's...Shall I redo?

[Wired*Nun]

Whatever you like, that fits. Maybe you should double post for now in both threads.

[LynMars]

I'll go with the delete and re-answer thing then, if I do get through. :)

[Wired*Nun]

Well, they can hear Raevyn, just waiting for one to respond. You don't have to feel rushed. Through the miracle of Amber Time we can go any everyone's own pace pretty much, as long as life and death aren't at stake for the PCs.

[LynMars]

From the way it ended up posting before, sounded like after she tried to say something to Landon, she still couldn't get through to them, as opposed to the way it reads now. No worries!

[Wired*Nun]

Bringing up Pattern sight will take more than 30 seconds, does Landon want to wait that long?

[TreyKincaide]

Answering in Comms

[TreyKincaide]

Well, I'm out for lunch. Later all. :)

[Wired*Nun]

Dang, I was trying to get Landon and Heldrik either in or out, and Raevyn hasn't said she is pulling them thru yet...

[LynMars]

He's about to come by and pick me up for lunch, actually. And...I kinda wanted to wait on Heldrick's reply before yanking both through, really :\

If you want me to pull them through without Thanos' saying either way...

[Wired*Nun]

I am having bizarre comp problems...later, have to restore or something

[Thanos]

Well Trey, lets go kick some butt and not take many names....

The bad part is that the enemy that Heldrik would be the most effective against is in far to tight of a combat with an ally for him to be able to start freely chopping about :-(

[LynMars]

*Waves spastically at Pygygsys!*

[TreyKincaide]

The 'List' just keeps getting bigger and bigger. :D

[Pygysys]

You lot just can't stay out of trouble, can you? :P

[Shutter]

I blame Dworkin.

And Rae.

[Pygysys]

Kind of makes me glad that Kat's holed up with the Hendrakes presently... No relatives around to lead a girl astray or into melees in the middle of cathedrals.

[Shutter]

Aww, but we always have such fun dashing into melees with roughly zero forethought.

This time we're being even dumber than before. I blame Roland's respect for his elders...and Rae. She's trouble.

[LynMars]

< Rae > "Me? Nu-uh! Roland's the one that started this!"

I think Shutter and I discussed a few days ago that Roland and Rae together get into more scrapes than apart... :P

[Pygysys]

It certainly looks that way. Good stuff; you're supposed to invest in the good stuff not the bad stuff. :P

I've been catching up on your exploits and it seems a few of the pieces are starting to fall into place. Mind you, I still have no idea who shot Joss.

[Thanos]

I think that I do ';)

[TreyKincaide]

I think we all know who has the bad stuff here. x.X

[LynMars]

Landon gonna 'splode!

[LynMars]

Amazing what happens when you read back a few threads; I re-opened my plot point file, that I apparently hadn't updated since the start of the Keep Battle in early 2005, and read things after that to get an idea of plot since.

And I thought Rae had a dagger or something, that Josh gave her...So much real time passing by, hard to recall some stuff.

[Wired*Nun]

Well, my comp at home doesn't work right now. Waah. I'm writing this at work. This wouldn't be such a problem except I composed a long post and ended up saving it in a document before everything crashed, so I don't want to lose all that work or rewrite my brilliant prose :cool: , which always loses something in the process.

Glad to hear from Pygysys again!

Good observations from everyone, though I think you all should have a nice conference sometime and discuss all the pieces IC/OOC. I think I've given you most of the clues, if you would just have a brain-banging session. It might take some combing of old posts, but I think I've been fairly consistent, even when everything isn't what it always seems. In my FTF games, there usually comes a point when I think they have all the pieces but can't seem to synthesize, and I suggest that they all hash it out together, and it always at least yields new leads and insights. I suggest you parse out things like strange word usages and tenses, where I often leave clues.

I'll give you one example from the present scene at the cathedral - read Dalt's and his mother's dialogue (and the PCs should be trying to remember who his mother was?) and try to figure out what some of it means.

Also, I try to be true to the NPCs characters. When it's a non-canonical NPC, you are building a character profile and each action adds to that; but when it's a canonical NPC like Corwin, and he does something odd (for him), you have to wonder what's behind it. For example, his reaction at seeing Dierdre's pictures is in character (desecration of the memory if his idolized sister) as is charging off overconfidently, at least from an earlier point of view - but it's a big change from his recent behavior as conservator of his own Pattern. Why might that have happened? What motivated him? Is he being manipulated?

Man, I'm starting to feel like a literature prof here...

[Wired*Nun]

Amazing what happens when you read back a few threads; I re-opened my plot point file, that I apparently hadn't updated since the start of the Keep Battle in early 2005, and read things after that to get an idea of plot since.

And I thought Rae had a dagger or something, that Josh gave her...So much real time passing by, hard to recall some stuff.

That's perfectly reasonable, and I think you are right. He's a dagger guy after all. If you could find the reference that would be great.

[LynMars]

Wired Nun 27th of June, 2005 Josh is out at the stables, saddling up their horses. He brightens upon seeing her, and ducks under to tighten the belly strap of her mount. "Mostly ready, now. That's all you have? Here, I have something for you. I made it myself."

Sliding it out from behind his belt, she sees him holding a slim dagger, fit for her hand, in a leather sheath. Taking her left hand, he turns it gently palm-up and extends her arm, brushing her sleeve back. He fastens the sheath in place with the straps, then flips down the sleeve. "I know you're not much on weapons, but this might help you sometime, if only to cut your food...in any case, it's a gift, so you gotta wear it, right?"
And she has been!

Rae would be saying something about Deela, but she's been kinda busy...

And I have 28 pages of plot stuff Rae's seen/been told directly herself. Some of it only pertains to the weirdness Josh occassionally presents, but the majority is main plot, starting allll the way back at Neptune House and Dunstan's initial contact attempt.

[Wired*Nun]

Good. Here's the post (I went home for lunch, ported the post onto my other comp with my external hard drive, yada yada)

[TreyKincaide]

I really missed Nightcrawler in X3.

[Wired*Nun]

Me too, as a character, though I wasn't all that happy with the actor and depiction they used in X2.

[Wired*Nun]

Well, after having read Landon's actions, all I can say is,

Oh

My

Unicorn.

This is gonna get real real interesting.

I think Landon may become enshrined in the Amberesque Hall of Monumental Jumping to Conclusions Hubris and Infamy for this boo-boo.

And don't you dare change it, lol.

It's too funny, in a really, really painful way.

Muse on that!

[Shutter]

If Landon hadn't done it then it was certainly on Roland's to-do list. The guy was asking for it.

[TreyKincaide]

Yay Bad Stuff.

[Wired*Nun]

You'll seee......

And, while we're waiting (I want to give everyone a chance to post), what exactly is the evidence that connects the assassination attempts (it's a given that the two are related) to Asmundson, poor Mrs. Hendriks, or even Nightmare and the current situation?

Hey, if you can dig up something I said, or an NPC said, I could understand this, but...yeesh.

I accept the idea that Landon, being less experienced in the web of conspiracies than others, might automatically think it is all part of One Big Conspiracy...but that don't mean it's so.

[Wired*Nun]

Also, Landon didn't hear Asmundson's comment. I can accept him seeing the mystical connection between As and the statue since he has the Pattern up. Teleporting with the Pattern using a Sorcery spell is going to drop the Pattern automatically, but that doesn't affect his use of spells (racked spells don't need the Pattern or Logrus to be brought up to use the spells). This may be a blessing in disguise, since in his injured state, plus teleporting, plus havingthe Pattern up, he might not hit his targets. Of course, that might have been the blessing...we shall see...

[TreyKincaide]

There's several points to address, but since I'm at work things may or may not be complete thoughts or a coherent logical progression.

As far as I remember, every time Merlin used Sorcery he either visualized the Logrus or utilized the Spikard. I guess I took it for granted that to use Sorcery first one had to conjure the Image.

I might have been confused by the timing of things as a result of the following Raevyn post:

http://online-roleplaying.com/forums/showpost.php?p=171368&postcount=84

Take Landon who's been pushed around a bit and almost assassinated for no explicable reason by shadow sorcerors and Trump artists that are connected to the Maze. While the two might be related, would someone not thinking rationally care or would he be inclined to put down the apparent outsider and ask questions later? That Asmundson's had a sure hand in Landon's manipulation from the get go and a Nightmare zealot doesn't weigh lightly in the action. The Elder Amberites did much worse for less reason.

Perhaps, I the player, am starting to feel frustrated by what seems as negative reinforcement for attempting to be proactive. Dave, if you had questions or concerns about my reasoning, I would have preferred that you would have asked in Comms. Opening it up in main invites and implies a level of critique as if, I the player, were somehow doing it wrong that hurts a bit.

[LynMars]

Looking back over my own notes, in the family meeting after the assassination, the link between the bullet, Trump, and the Keep (at the time housing Dunstan and the Maze) were clear. Dunstan was adamant as to his own lack of involvement, but there were hints (that the youngers were given anyway) that someone with access to the Keep--Dalt and Rinaldo being pretty much the chief ones there--had a hand in the assassination.

I can toss up a copy of Rae's POV of plot points somewhere if you want; may be easier than slogging through a few thousand posts...

[Wired*Nun]

Hey, Trey, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to come off like that. I was just enjoying the OOC interaction commentary on what is going to be a tragically amusing situation, in the same way we might sit around and shoot the bull in an FTF game while taking a break. I probably got too enthusiastic for print, which loses all the tone and laughter. You didn't do anything wrong, and the only error I think you made was connecting with an unheard comment, no big deal.

In the final analysis, if I thought Landon was really acting out of character, I would have asked in comms (ask Thanos about this, I did it recently)- this was more of an amused "okaaaaaaayyyyyyy" moment, well within the realm of reason, an I was thinking out loud in print, always a dangerous thing to do.

Again, no offense meant, and I apologize.

[TreyKincaide]

Apology accepted. :) If you want me to change the end of the post so that it doesn't reflect the unheard comment, I will.

[Wired*Nun]

Looking back over my own notes, in the family meeting after the assassination, the link between the bullet, Trump, and the Keep (at the time housing Dunstan and the Maze) were clear. Dunstan was adamant as to his own lack of involvement, but there were hints (that the youngers were given anyway) that someone with access to the Keep--Dalt and Rinaldo being pretty much the chief ones there--had a hand in the assassination.

I can toss up a copy of Rae's POV of plot points somewhere if you want; may be easier than slogging through a few thousand posts...

Yes, the whole Keep/Trump Teflon issue was definitily an overt connection to Kashfa (weapon) and the Keep (Fount energy infusion), but I gues I thought it was soooo obvious and disregarded by the Elders enough that the PCs would believe that there was at least half a chance it was just a plant. Which means it might be half true.

I guess I did my jub of confusion a little too well, or got Landon wound so tight he kind of got mad, which is all cool fromt he roleplaying aspect. Again, I was more crowing thna complaining over what is happening, I suppose I'm not evil enough or I'd be yelling YES, YES, YESSSSSS!

:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

[TreyKincaide]

Well, call him in-bred and crazy, but attempted murder leaves him a bit cold when its his own! ;)

[LynMars]

A lot of what we're dealing with for clues are really old real-time wise. We're also running the risk of contradictions with as long-lasting as this has been (not that I've found many in my own digging last day or so). And something that may seem obvious to one, is overlooked by another--or completely misinterpreted. ;)

I think maybe I will go and toss my Plot Point thinger up...maybe in the Contributions forum, so others can peruse it if they want. Things I totally forgot about in there...

[Wired*Nun]

Good plan, I'll shut up now.

[Wired*Nun]

Hooray, I just got the damned primary comp working again.

[Wired*Nun]

I'm hoping Shutter and Thanos post before I go on (downside of everyone being in the same place).

[Thanos]

Posted....hope its Anima enough for you. I figured that since Amberites are much stronger than humans that they should be able to jump much higher and farther than normal humans ;-)

That or I have been playing to much Exalted.

[LynMars]

There's no such thing as too much Exalted!

...Now too many dice while playing Exalted, that's another story...

[Thanos]

Yeah, I once figured out how to make a starting character that could put around 80 dice into attacking with a thrown weapon (Combo required)...the GM said it was to much and to come up with something a little more rounded ;-)

[Wired*Nun]

Amberites are much stronger and tougher, but not much faster than normal humans IMO - witness Luke and Merlin not going to the Olympics. To me this means slow twitch muscle cells (endurance and strength) rather than fast twitch (speed) are their big advantage, along with structural integrity. So, they can jump perhaps a bit higher and farther but not amazingly so - like a gymnast, not a superhero. Now I bet Merlin or Luke could have won Marathon type events but they didn't want to it to be noticed that their physiques didn't fit the profile, etc. I'm sure they could have made awesome swimmers, especially in distance.

[Wired*Nun]

Guess Shutter isn't getting on for a post, so I'll go forward a bit.

[TreyKincaide]

>.< *is afraid!*

[LynMars]

Shutter mentioned on IRC he wasn't feeling well; that may be part of it.

[Thanos]

Post updated to reflect the theorized innate nature of Amberites according to Dave. ;-)

[Wired*Nun]

Be afraid, be very afraid...

[TreyKincaide]

Shit. Just. Shit.

[LynMars]

BTW Dave, I mentioned awhile back a friend from Guardians/IRC land was thinking of asking about joining; he said he sent you his ideas for a character concept last night via email. Bit of a wacky kid, but all around good guy and good RPer. Shutter and Trey would know him as Lans or Lana, I have no idea what he emailed you as.

...Just keep him away from the mechanical flying fish. They still scare me... ;)

[LynMars]

*Reads the post*

:?

"What did you DO, Ray!?" Suddenly comes to mind here...

I have a bad feeling about this, anyone else? :O

[Wired*Nun]

Edited the post for clarity.

I'll check my game email for this guy.

Hope he isn't the kind of wacky that prompts him to personal attacks and rants over game issues.

I'll let you guys chew over this one, its bedtime for moi. Nites.

[Shutter]

Sorry for the lack of posting today. I'm pretty sick and more than a little out of it. Figured Roland was in a good enough position that skipping a post from me this round was no harm.

Wow though....that's a hell of a post. I think we need to start issuing permits for Pattern Blades.

[TreyKincaide]

I think that Chaos shapeshifters shouldn't be surprised that they're counted an enemy when they're playing super spy.

[Shutter]

If I didn't have a whomping headache I'd be digging through old posts trying to remember when/where we first/last saw Mrs. Hendricks...

[Shutter]

When I was only mid paragraph I first thought it was going to be Dierdre he'd struck down.

[LynMars]

Silly-wacky, not drama-wacky, no. He's been reading the threads, and the house rules, and all that fun stuff. Actually pretty laid back, and one of the OPs in the IRC channel. I gave him the yahoo address, as it's the only one I got for you.

[Wired*Nun]

I think that Chaos shapeshifters shouldn't be surprised that they're counted an enemy when they're playing super spy.

Hazards of the trade, too true...speaking of drama, gonna be interesting between Josh and Landon from now on...

[Wired*Nun]

When I was only mid paragraph I first thought it was going to be Dierdre he'd struck down.

If I'd wanted to cheat and be mean, I'd have made it Gray...on the other hand, she wasn't good at simply imitating other people...she was a method actress.

[LynMars]

My thoughts right now are that it's Josh's Mom, either infiltrating the enemy camp, trying to find a way to help her son's curse, or a part of the whole Maze thing from the get-go. *rereads old threads*

Aha! Here she is, the introduction of Mrs Vendela Hendricks on this page: http://online-roleplaying.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4098&page=4

[Wired*Nun]

Hello all. Is TonyJones the same as Lans, or is that someone else? I know I've looked at his web pages, for the House Rules I think...am I remembering correctly?

[Wired*Nun]

Hey, shall I wait for you Trey or should I go ahead?

[TreyKincaide]

I got a neat action to finish posting!

[Shutter]

TonyJones has nothing to do with the Lans that LynMars speaks of I think.

[Wired*Nun]

I'm going to wait a bit to post, I just over-ate a really good dinner.

Meh.

[TreyKincaide]

I'm laying down for a nap. Be back later.

[LynMars]

Poor Landon! Rae was gonna tell him to get outta there anyway, before Josh remembered he was there. She's still confused about what went on while she was Trumping anyway. Combat and Rae don't get along too well.

And yeah, so far as I know, Lans is an about-to-enter-college teenager from Idaho, not a GM from England. :)

[Wired*Nun]

yeah, but what do I know.

[Wired*Nun]

Hey, I don;t think I'm up to posting right now. Sorry guys. Just tired and distracted. I'll prolly post during your night, my morning.

Laters.

[Icebird]

I've been useless for the sat few days... I just moved, with about two hours warning before I had to leave. I'm writing now from the sunny (300+ days of sun) state of New Mexico. I'm down here for the summer with my dad, applying for an internship at Sandia Labs.

There's no internet at the house (yet), so I can only post when I follow my dad in to work and use an empty station. =)

[Wired*Nun]

Hey, that's sweet. Are you at Albuquirky? If so, say hello to Mr. Dave "How to Build A Nuclear Bomb (In Your Basement) Havlik if you see him. Tell him I'll be looking him up for a job in a couple years.:roll:

[Wired*Nun]

I've been terribly busy today, sorry, I'll get to it.

Really I will.

[Shutter]

I was rereading the house rules and saw again the notion of racking and storing spells in Trump. I now have this image of Amberites killing eachother with Magic the Gathering cards.

[Shutter]

...Teleporting with the Pattern using a Sorcery spell is going to drop the Pattern automatically, but that doesn't affect his use of spells (racked spells don't need the Pattern or Logrus to be brought up to use the spells)....

And...

... And you must prepare for use of sorcery by bringing up your Power. However, bringing up your power is a matter of seconds rather than minutes, depending on Psyche. Chaos ranked psyche may take 30 seconds to bring up a Power. Amber, 15. Merlin, 5. Fiona, 1. Notice that an ashtray to the gut only takes .2 seconds. via House Rules (http://online-roleplaying.com/forums/showpost.php?p=70008&postcount=1)

Perhaps I'm reading this wrong. From the house rules I figured you needed Pattern up to cast a racked spell, but now from OOC discussion I guess you don't need to have it up?

[Wired*Nun]

You know, I see that written there but I don't remember it, and I don't agree with it now. Hmm. Maybe I was concerned about Sorcery being overused when I wrote that. However, I am certain Merlin never had to do this.

So, I am going to edit it and say that you do not need to bring up your Power to use sorcery. Hanging/modifying/maintaining the spells DOES involve bringing up the Power, in case that matters.

Sorry about the inconsistency. I hope Trey isn't too annoyed with me for changing it, and I do appreciate restraint in throwing spells around.

[Shutter]

So much for my ashtray to the gut tactic.

[Wired*Nun]

Oh, it still has its uses. Check my new wording/rule.

[Shutter]

Long live the ashtray!

[Wired*Nun]

I'm going to answer or comment on a couple of questions of Treys in his plot summary, just for the halibut.


Why did Benedict throw Siodmak's head to the Hendrakes if his message was meant for Random?



It was a warning to Hendrakes in the event that they were behind Siodmak's perfidy, and as a message to control their rogue elements. Siodmak was Lintra Hendrake's other child, twin to Dara the Elder, lost in shadow. Note that he was Larsus' grandson and Benedict's son, and Lintra herself was slain by Benedict and (in my version) Oberon.



Was this real or a ruse? If Nightmare pre-empted the Maze it means it was made for it rather than the reverse as timing seems to indicate. Was Deela influencing Nayda or was someone else?


The key to a lot is in your hands, especially Roland and Raevyn's, and it involves identifying who or what Nightmare is. The above is kind of a chicken/egg thing.


Why is Landon in specific targetted? How is he a threat?


You already know that no group is monolithic - not Amber, not Chaos, not Maze users, Aurora associates, certainly not demons. Landon's association with Asmundson may have cast him in one light; his association with Luke and rescue of Jasra as well; as an Amberite he may have been viewed in a certain way or believed to be an enemy to someoen while actually being ignorant of the situation.

"They formed a core and a driving force for a resistance movement, posessed of powers to counter Hendrake's own. What's more, they had an unlimited potential for recruitment. Most of the population eventually threw their support behind the Changed, putting aside their concerns about the power and the changes it wrought in those recently taken. There was a significant holdout, though, composed of those loyal to Hendrake, or frightened of the 'new' powers, or morally opposed to the new state of deathlike being, or for personal reasons... that's two factions among the demons including the Changed, plus Canthus' own more or less between the two extremes.


Saudra goes down like a double shot of single-malt, and Landon is soon lost in the whirl of time's oldest drug. Despite his determination to keep his head, he loses it more than once as he covers himself in her flesh. It seems forever, or an instant, but only two hours pass before he comes up for air one last time. "You're better than he is, you know. I wish you were pulling my strings, not him," she whispers. "I wish I hadn't have had to do what I did." Landon looks around in suspicion, testing his body for any signs of injury, influence or drugs, and finding none. Farrig, Martin or is Saudra talking about someone else?

Looking at him for a long moment, she finally replies. "I did what I'm good at...with you...for an audience. Probably for blackmail, or to ruin some other relationship. That's what a whore is for, after all, to be used and then put aside, until used again." She nods in the direction of the mirror. "It's behind there." Behind the mirror is a piece of pasteboard with an eye painted on it, stuck with a piece of tape to the wall. It isn't any style Landon recognizes, though he is no expert.

If she is Farrig's or Farrig's master's, why is planting Jasra's Trump important? Seems sloppy for the head of a secret police.


From what Landon learned from Merlin about demons, they can be bound in many ways. It's relatively easy to force them to do certain things, harder to make them do it well, and very hard to bind them to say or not say certain things, and impossible to control their thoughts. Think of the demon geased by Dara to protect Merlin. Maybe Saudra wasn't prohibited from saying certain things in certain ways, especially if it was a rush job.


The second time this exact phrase came up. Coincidence or is Corwin and the Shapeshifter in cohoots?


It might be, but not because of this phrase. That's the GM's voice creeping in. I think Dworkin said something like that too.




Anyway, hope that gives some things to muse over.

[Wired*Nun]

I'm working on the next big post now.

[Shutter]

I started up my archiving and cleaning project again. Once again I'm just flabbergasted by how much text we've layed out. Chapter 8 (random example) is 79 pages of 8.5font text.

[Wired*Nun]

That's a lot. We have a novel here, folks, or more. That's a real tribute to everyone.

[LynMars]

Times like this are why I have a detailed Trump list...and reminds me of what ones Rae still needs >.<

[Wired*Nun]

Raevyn must be in denial here...or does she get "nurse calm" in situations like this?

Right now, though, just to be clear, these are eminently and speedily fatal wounds.

[LynMars]

Yeah, I have no idea where that came from, really, and it seems out of place...Probably a combination of the two, added on top of a really bad day (or several) and not knowing what else to do--and a bit guilt-tripping, I think...

[Icebird]

Yup, I'm here in Albuquerque. That's a tough one to spell. I haven't had a chance to read through the big thread yet, still waiting to get dialup at the house. I'll have to recompile my kernel to get modem support on my laptop... Happy-happy-joy-joy! (Insert sarcastic tone of voice)

[Wired*Nun]

I know how to spell it, I just like to spell it my way. Like, Sacrapimento, CA.

[Shutter]

I can definitely see a nurse/mom side to Raevyn coming out in times like this. I like it.

[Shutter]

Edited my post semi-heavily.

[Wired*Nun]

I have thought of one (and only one) way to save Vela's life. You guys might think of one or more as well, but there is a way. Think hard.

The future is not set. There is no fate but what we make.

[LynMars]

When the GM starts quoting "Terminator", you know it's bad. Argh! We're gonna have to brainstorm, I think...Any clues, Dave?

[Shutter]

<Roland>"Oy, Heldrik, reckon you can channel a storm of Pattern energy if I release it and use it to hold them still in time?"

That's about the best I've come up with so far.

[Wired*Nun]

When the GM starts quoting "Terminator", you know it's bad. Argh! We're gonna have to brainstorm, I think...Any clues, Dave?

Hmmm....nothing that wouldn't be a freebie...

If Landon had been man enough (I'm slamming the PC here, not the player!) to stick around and face what he'd just done, he'd probably be the most sensible one to come up with the solution...second possibility would be Heldrik IMO. The other PCs would be unlikely, though they might. It would depend on what their parents insisted they learn and study when growing up.

[Wired*Nun]

<Roland>"Oy, Heldrik, reckon you can channel a storm of Pattern energy if I release it and use it to hold them still in time?"

That's about the best I've come up with so far.

Without the initiation, Pattern energy would be problematic to the non-Amberite Chaos-born...

Although the concept of slowing time individually (for the patient in this case) while leaving everyone else free to act is a good one. The idea of stasis/cryo is a staple of sci-fi, even reality for those who think they will be revived.

[Shutter]

I think Landon the PC gets some serious leeway for having been shot at, pummeled, murdered a friend, accidentaly murdered(or near enough) an apparent ally, and knocked through the air with partial impalement. Poor guy has had a really crappy last 2 minutes.

[Wired*Nun]

Hehe. Yeah, well, short of killing him...still, just trumping in, killing and bolting is going to be viewed in a very baaaad light.

[TreyKincaide]

Cha-Ching! Holy smokes Batman. I just solved the problem.

[Pygysys]

You know if all else fails, just knock off Josh to prevent him from hunting Landon down in the name of vengeance.

With both of Josh's parents out of the picture, who's going to avenge him?

Slowly but surely we can weed out our cousins and lay claim to more of the universe. :evil:

[TreyKincaide]

I <3 you Pyg! I think that Rae's going to disagree with that Josh plan, though!

[Wired*Nun]

Ohhh...that's a nasty thought! :evil:

[Wired*Nun]

I <3 you Pyg! I think that Rae's going to disagree with that Josh plan, though!

I'm not up on the latest emoticons, what's that?

[TreyKincaide]

<3 is a sideways heart.

[Pygysys]

Trust Rae to be a stick in the mud... Oh she could come around; we just need to find something a little more appealing and if that fails; find someone with ... what was that little thing known as high compelling?

Anyway time for me to get some sleep; midnight finishes at work are a pain and I have another one tomorrow night. Need to get some sleep so I can get some study in tomorrow.

Good luck with whatever the next step proves to be. :)

[Wired*Nun]

I love you sideways, eh?

[TreyKincaide]

Something like that!

[LynMars]

*Reads back over the last several posts...*

< Rae > :cry: No killing Josh! And I am not a stick in the mud! ...Am I? :paranoid:

[Shutter]

So, I got the rough version of the archiving up to date. 31 chapters. Here (http://staff.washington.edu/%7Econorb/Amber), but only 1-8 are cleaned up so far.

Some statistics:
Pages Words
Chapter 1 31 14,875
Chapter 2 31 15,355
Chapter 3 19 12,568
Chapter 4 23 13,683
Chapter 5 35 18,993
Chapter 6 21 12,918
Chapter 7 28 16,408
Chapter 8 78 51,316
Chapter 9 105 57,980
Chapter 10 76 46455
Chapter 11 62 39,697
Chapter 12 43 23,790
Chapter 13 oops
Chapter 14 77 49,723
Chapter 15 25 14,725
Chapter 16 24 14,081
Chapter 17 18 11.210
Chapter 18 5 2,898
Chapter 19 57 35,374
Chapter 20 14 8,874
Chapter 21 17 10,079
Chapter 22 25 14,517
Chapter 23 19 11,487
Chapter 24 11 6,541
Chapter 25 35 20,789
Chapter 26 9 5,721
Chapter 27 21 14,516
Chapter 28 15 9,558
Chapter 29 41 26,651
Chapter 30 46 26,208
Chapter 31 21 12,217
Chapter 32 23 14,675


Total: 1055 pages 622,683 words

That's really ugly...Sorry, but I don't seem to be able to get it to format to my liking. :(

[LynMars]

...Wow...

[Shutter]

Indeed :O

[LynMars]

hrm. 27th of July will apparently be the 2nd birthday of this game. Not so far off. A lotta text in nearly 2 years game time. Niftiness. :)

[Thanos]

One thought I had was to see if anybody had a Trump of Rebis, Tamarands old character...who to my knowledge is the only AdvLogrus initiate we would have a chance of pulling into this and a chance of helping us out with another shifter...that is if Gray can't do something.

[Pygysys]

And because I can't help myself... Where are your priorities people?

You went there to shut down the Nightmare because Dworkin told you. You were all prepared to fight it out and most likely kill if necessary. An enemy who was attacking (essentially) gets cut down and gutted like a fish and what happens? You try and save them?

You lot are so not going to be leading any of Amber's defences if attacked. I can just see it now; Right we've cut down half their numbers but do we have enough beds in the red cross tents? No? Argh!

Of course I'm just fooling with you. :)

[Thanos]

Well, Heldrik doesn't know jack or nothing other than a statue of Nightmare was walking around until Landon cut down Asmundson (which Heldrik was suspicious of in the first place) and accidentally hit Josh's wife/Mom/family member or whatever she is. Dalt seems to be holding back and has another shapeshifter who doesn't seem concious. Obviously there was a fight and the two big warfare guys backed off of each other signaling some kind of truce or another...

Would be helpful if somebody actually clued Heldrik in...not that he can do anything but what he is actually doing...and even that is darn draining.

[Shutter]

If they send an army of Josh's mom to lay siege to Amber, Amber will fall.

[Thanos]

Its my opinion that Benedict, Oberon, and Bleys were keeping their true forces back and waiting for the right time to go on the offensive...when the Pattern of repaired. The stuff they did to fight off the waves of Chaos were just a holding manuever to get Chaos to over extend themselves.
When the Black Road was destroyed I think that one of Chaos' (if not the main army) armies was using it to travel to Amber to attack. They were destroyed (or rewritten and unable to travel to Amber to attack) and knowing when the Pattern would be fixed allowed our boy Benedict to launch a combined arms attack against Chaos at a time when Trumps (maybe magic to) would be unable to work...which ment that Chaos had no options for reinforcements.

Masterfully planned to say the least, but still with Benedict as the Ace in the Hole for Amber...an army of just about anything isn't going to cut it.

[Pygysys]

I think what Shutter may be referring to is that certain PC's are big softies. :P In other words they'll be so upset about hurting/killing people that they'll just fly the white flag as opposed to dealing with guilty consciences.

Or I could be wrong.

[Shutter]

Yeah, I didn't mean an army of Chaosites. I meant an army of Josh's mom(s)...preferably all armed with pies...

My wife tells me my jokes rarely make any sense. You'd think I'd learn right? No such luck.

[LynMars]

Well, Rae did kinda give Landon and Heldrik a fast run-through of what was going on before she got pulled into the Trump thing...But the situation changed.

Corwin and Nightmare -left-. Dalt, I don't think, really wanted to fight at all--his words and actions seem to preclude that. Asmundson attacked, and was cut down for it...And in the heat of the moment, so did Vela, in her guise as Mrs Hendricks, as she walked right up to him in the midst of it all. A mad, ready-to-kill man really isn't gonna stop and ask questions. But it also made things change drastically.

Rae's never been the combat type. She's had a bad feeling about this from the start, but was a bit too meek to say anything to stop it before it got too far (and sometimes, posts move a bit fast). So now, she's guilt-tripping. :)

[Shutter]

I wonder if Heldrik could whip together a nifty shadowpocket wound stopper...

[Pygysys]

I don't think that would help.

Again I say; Let the crafty Chaosian die!

Let's take a vote? :devious:

[Shutter]

Aww, come on, it'd be neat! A wound is only a problem because it put's this big gap in your body, blood flow gets diverted etc. So, slap in a shadow pocket lining up on the sides of the wound. In the pocket, no distance, so they're effectively closed.

Go on Heldrik, get to work, doesn't sound hard...right? :)

[LynMars]

Rae'd rather not have Josh go running off trying to kill Landon next >.< That sounds like a bad idea to her.

[Pygysys]

Yes but in regards to the shadow pocket as it's crafted via the Pattern; wouldn't that go against the Chaosian's favour/anatomy?

As for Josh, refer to my earlier weeding suggestion. ;)

[Shutter]

Well, as neither Roland or myself are actualy advanced pattern users, we don't know a whole lot about what happens on a shadow pocket interface...Paging Dr. Heldrik.

[LynMars]

I've been rereading Landon's pov of plot, trying to find some clue...I'm thinking it's another case of Dave thinking it's obvious to us again ;)

In the meantime, though, I've gotten some odd and icky ideas as to Nightmare/Damion/whatever and the whole Deela-Deirdre thing....

[Pygysys]

Do share. I love icky!

[Thanos]

Erm, the shadow pocket idea could work and I was thinking already of having to do that when/if Heldrik has to leave to persue another option. The problem of her bleeding out is the first and biggest problem, but that still doesn't do anything about putting her back together again.

One option is to have Josh Trump back home, ramp his shadow up to full speed, have him rack a bunch of healing type spells (or just a 2 or whatever we can get away with), then dumb it down again and trump back to the blood soaked room using Rae. Heldrik could return Mommy to regular time and Josh could start casting healing magics till she got better enough not to die or burn.

[Wired*Nun]

Yeah, I didn't mean an army of Chaosites. I meant an army of Josh's mom(s)...preferably all armed with pies...

My wife tells me my jokes rarely make any sense. You'd think I'd learn right? No such luck.

I got it.

Of course, that just means I'm twisted too.

[Wired*Nun]

Aww, come on, it'd be neat! A wound is only a problem because it put's this big gap in your body, blood flow gets diverted etc. So, slap in a shadow pocket lining up on the sides of the wound. In the pocket, no distance, so they're effectively closed.

Go on Heldrik, get to work, doesn't sound hard...right? :)

If he was already a trained surgeon, I could see it.

Of course, just getting the wound to pull together would help things a bit.

[Wired*Nun]

Rae'd rather not have Josh go running off trying to kill Landon next >.< That sounds like a bad idea to her.

Oh, believe me, it's on the list. Right after blood cursing him.

[Wired*Nun]

Yes but in regards to the shadow pocket as it's crafted via the Pattern; wouldn't that go against the Chaosian's favour/anatomy?

As for Josh, refer to my earlier weeding suggestion. ;)

That's true too...

[Wired*Nun]

I've been rereading Landon's pov of plot, trying to find some clue...I'm thinking it's another case of Dave thinking it's obvious to us again ;)

In the meantime, though, I've gotten some odd and icky ideas as to Nightmare/Damion/whatever and the whole Deela-Deirdre thing....

Sounds like she's on to me...

[Wired*Nun]

Erm, the shadow pocket idea could work and I was thinking already of having to do that when/if Heldrik has to leave to persue another option. The problem of her bleeding out is the first and biggest problem, but that still doesn't do anything about putting her back together again.

One option is to have Josh Trump back home, ramp his shadow up to full speed, have him rack a bunch of healing type spells (or just a 2 or whatever we can get away with), then dumb it down again and trump back to the blood soaked room using Rae. Heldrik could return Mommy to regular time and Josh could start casting healing magics till she got better enough not to die or burn.

Heldrik wouldn't know this but since Sorcery can't duplicate POwer (only mimic it in some cases) there is no D&D-type "cure super big serious wounds" spell, unless the sorcerer were also a shapeshifter with ss-others and incorporated the power into the spell. Unincorporated healing spells are enough to stitch things back together but can't address the body's cellular processes like shapeshift can. Spells can also speed healing, but if the person was dying, they would speed dying too.

So, the trick is going to be to find the right combination of things to do, in the right place, in time, with Col Mustard with the Candestick in the Library.

[TreyKincaide]

Wow. Blood cursing someone when you're not in danger of death. That's...err...um...yeah. Hope it comes back to bite Laertes in the ass.

Landon's life was interesting before. How much more of a beating can he take?

I've posted by the way. Don't know if you saw it Dave.

I'm 26 today. Go me.

[Thanos]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

OK. Well the only real option then is Gray or somebody with a lot of Shapeshifting and Logrus......

[Wired*Nun]

Happy birthday, now you can rent cars and your insurance rates will drop. Go Jon! You are officially an adult by every measure of American society.

As for the blood curse, bolting out of there may have avoided it, since Josh doesn't have on object to keep his rage in mind.


OK. Well the only real option then is Gray or somebody with a lot of Shapeshifting and Logrus......


Actually after it's all over I'll tell you my idea. Like most good ideas, it's really obvious if you happen to think of it.

[Wired*Nun]

I've posted by the way. Don't know if you saw it Dave.

I got it, just ruminating and waiting for Heldrik to post and been doing IRL stuff a lot, the move is creeping forward.

[Pygysys]

Happy Birthday! Hope you have a fantastic day and get cake! Not enough people get cake on their birthdays.

Oh and I say keep them both frozen; that way you can question them later. Josh is shifty looking and his Mum is a bad guy (dependent on point of view of course), don't trust either of them.

Yes I am playing the devil on someone's shoulder.

[TreyKincaide]

Cake or death? Um...cake please.

[Pygysys]

Maybe you can buy back Josh's affection with a good pastry? Seriously though, Trump the Hendrakes and ask them if you can dip the dying woman into the Fount. Pass it off as an experiment for curiousity sake? Well my curiousity; I have no idea what would happen in that situation if anything at all.

If she drowned you could then blame her death on them and shake it free of Landon...

[TreyKincaide]

Evil...er...ambiguiously grey...PC's unite!

[Pygysys]

Let's take over Amber first then Chaos. Wait that's where the Chaosians went wrong; let's start with Rebma and see what happens...:evil:

Anyway it's past 1am, time to get some sleep so I can get some study done tomorrow before beginning work again. Good luck with the current game dilemna.

[Wired*Nun]

I think Pyg made the wrong type of character to implement her evil ideas with...

[LynMars]

That or Kat's a lot more sneaky and mean under her nice exterior...:paranoid:

[Wired*Nun]

hey is Thanos gonna post Heldrik?

[Pygysys]

A new show has just been announced: When Amberites go bad...

Yes, it's true, Kat's the wrong type of character to move forward with universal domination but that's the beauty of this game; anything can happen.

Still I like to think of Kat as one of the nice, I'm going to try and do the right thing types. I can't imagine time spent with the Hendrakes will convince her that honour is a bad thing.

[Thanos]

I was waiting for somebody to get ahold of anybody. My only real solution is Gray or Rebis. Alternately Heldrik could cacoon them both and port with them to Chaos...but that just doesn't seem like a good idea for Heldrik....

[Pygysys]

I agree with you there, Thanos. Porting to Chaos is not a good idea. Getting Gray to forcibly shapeshift Josh's mum does seem a plausible solution, at least to me.

[Shutter]

So, the trick is going to be to find the right combination of things to do, in the right place, in time, with Col Mustard with the Candestick in the Library.

This is what worries me. 'cause the only idea I have is shove an advanced shapeshifter at her, blood transfusions as needed, and that's that. The notion of steps...combinations of things? Way beyond my knowledge of the gameworld.

<Roland>"So, in other words I should be looking for a nice card to get Josh?"
<Me>"Pretty much man."

[Pygysys]

<Devil on your shoulder> "Strike now whilst the iron is hot; get rid of Josh and his Mum! Two birds with one stone; we can always manipulate evidence of his guilt afterwards."

<Me> "Honestly, I really do not have anything against Josh. I just feel a compulsion to kill him or his mother as everyone else strives to save his Mum."

[Wired*Nun]

Aww, you guys...what would James Connor say (he was Josh's player way back in the day when we played FTF).

'Course, he isn't here to defend himself so...strike away! GM will not magically save him if you do.

However...mercy to him who shows it...or, as it might be better known, he who lives by the sword, dies by it also.

[Shutter]

Aww, you guys...what would James Connor say (he was Josh's player way back in the day when we played FTF).

I think he'd say "Golly, sure was dumb of Josh not to tell anyone that his mom was undercover shapeshifted."

[TreyKincaide]

I'm sure Josh had his reasons. Just because you're at cross purposes with someone, doesn't mean you'll sell them out.

[Wired*Nun]

Quite so, to both. You rolls the dice and you takes yer chances.

[LynMars]

Wheee, summer classes! Have an "Intro to Fiction Writing" class starting today that should be fun. Next month will be a history class focusing on Native Americans. I almost took a third, morning class next month, but I know me too well; I'm not a morning person. Best part is, VA considers 6 hours in the summer to be fll time, so I get lotsa money. Probably has to do with the couple-hours-a-day, five-days-a-week part...

[Shutter]

As far as I can tell Roland is busy staring at a Trump and shouldn't be replying to Rae yet, right?

Also, I'm leaving for Berkeley some time in the next few days, back sunday night. With luck I'll get some good science done and can make some progress on my dissertation. Without luck I'll waste a week.

[Wired*Nun]

He can go ahead.

[Shutter]

Are shadow bubbles of the type Heldrik is using restricted to spherical?
Could he give Gray a little access dent so that most of her could stay in real time and allow her to work on slow time Vela?

[Thanos]

Thats a really good question, but its not a practiced thing for Heldrik, currently ';-)

[Wired*Nun]

That wouldn't work - chemical processes across the time differential would mean that effectively whatever is inside becomes detached from what is inside, cells die, etc. Fast time blood would pile up against the wall of slow time causing arterial ruptures, slow time blood would be trapped and not return to the heart, etc.

[Shutter]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that Heldrik would be sad if he did that to his wife.

Ok...next idea....

[LynMars]

That sounds icky.

I spent lotsa money today. Darned shoes. And books. Then I got ice cream, and yes, that was necessary. :)

I'm guessing Gray doesn't need Rae's help, or at least didn't ask for it. Not that I'm sure this is within Rae's experience. Could try. Could also help out Roland, depending on what he wants to do.

[Shutter]

Yeah, Roland's really not sure what to do. He'd like to help Corwin, but that seems a mite tricky. Maybe giving Corwin the Pattern ring, or setting it off in Corwin's direction? But the contact doesn't seem to me like it could handle that...so, unless I think of something in before we've all posted I'll just have him flip the card over and go back to looking at Josh's mom wishing he could help.

Oh...wait, we've all posted now haven't we? Well crud....sorry for the delay...

[Wired*Nun]

Lyn, edit your post pls (Thanos/Heldrik)

[Icebird]

Yay! Online at the same time, for the first time in a long time.
Hehe. I like that sentence. And we might be able to get at least part of a conversation done in less than a week.

[Shutter]

Small post edit to clarify the direction Roland is facing.

[Wired*Nun]

Make sure you reread my edited post, it was unclear before.

[Wired*Nun]

Sorry, gents, bedtime for me. Nite.

[Shutter]

'Night Dave.

[Shutter]

Oh my...

[TreyKincaide]

o.O

[Wired*Nun]

Hehehe...

[LynMars]

I thought something similar, but that Deela was really Deirdre. But this works too.

Everybody loves Deirdre! Or at least lusts after her...

[Wired*Nun]

Yeah, she's a hottie. I figure, for those above the law and hundreds of years old, just like everything else, only what is "real" matters as trophies, and that pretty much leaves "family" from Amber and Chaos...or demons...

[Shutter]

Hmm...my post has Roland talking at/to Dalt. But from your edit it looks like maybe there's no time for that?

[Wired*Nun]

I'll fix it.

[Shutter]

Like I mentioned before, in the morning I'm heading off to California for a few days. I'm not sure yet how that will affect my posting, possibly not at all, possibly kill it off. I'll be back monday morning at the latest.

Of course, this assumes that my advisor gets off his butt to approve the purchase order for the last minute plane tickets...otherwise I'm not going anywhere.

[LynMars]

Slight edit of my post to recall something else about Rae's home Shadow. May or may not help.

[Thanos]

Arrotel and Meg are starting to remind me of Pretty Woman. ;-)

[LynMars]

I read Arrotel's thread and giggle. I like Meg.

[Wired*Nun]

Hey, all hookers have hearts of gold, if you catch them young enough.

Then again...anyone ever seen "Monster"?

[Icebird]

Nope, never even heard of it. But if you want to share the main plot points, please do it in this thread and not the other. =)

[LynMars]

Shutter emailed me to let you know that for now,"Roland is going along to Heldrik land". He should hopefully have ORP access by morning, West Coast time. Which is like, a 9-10 hour difference from Belgium, if my math's right.

[Wired*Nun]

The movie "Monster" is the dramatisation of a true story about a prostitute turned serial killer...

PST is 9 hours difference. No hurry, I think.


I read Arrotel's thread and giggle. I like Meg.


I kind of based Meg on Kaylee from Firefly...if that helps anyone's imagination.

[Wired*Nun]

'Gray seems...Different.'

Sorry, I'm sure I'm not running her the same as Chalice would. Let me know if I screw up too much.

[TreyKincaide]

I think she means the alpha/beta pack persona that Raevyn hasn't seen before. I think its pretty good so far.

[Wired*Nun]

Yeah from my point of view she now has homid and canid status she never had before - hence confidence bordering on arrogance, along with a tendency toward more canid behavior leaking to the homid. I don't think she ever met Merlin so to her he was just some guy.

[TreyKincaide]

Makes sense. Sometimes its hard for the big fish of a pond to go to a bigger pond.

[LynMars]

Trey pretty much got it right on; Raevyn was reacting to the more wolf-like Gray, as opposed to the erratic teenager she seemed to be last time they spoke, with her fits of shyness and quick tempers--that certainly hinted at the canid aspects before.

Now I want to ask: I know some of the NPCs, like Josh, are former PC characters you've come across before; is this your own take on a concept inspired by that character, or are you trying to stay rather true to the original portrayal the player gave?

[Wired*Nun]

Hmm, hard to say. I can't be the player, and she surprised me at times, played to form other times. I guess I'm just giving my impression of the Gray I know after the things I have determined she has gone through. In one way I'd rather do away with the character...if there is a sensible happenstance for that, I may just. But I'm not going to force it.

As for Josh, James was a great buddy of mine but I lost track of him after I left Japan. I've googled him from time to time but he was a vehicle mechanic and never the writer type. He also had a mild stutter and manner much like Josh - in fact, his character was one of those "based on me like I'd like to be" types. This worked very well when we LARPed. It was especially funny to see Josh show up at a Vampire:TM LARP (I was storytelling) and have them all trying to figure him out. Lester was there too. We had a footlong stuffed rat. Antonius Mesmer was actually my PC-pusher in that game, and Fiona showed up from time to time...as far as I am concerned, all my RPGs inhabit the same big multiverse. I have a whole host of World of Darkness characters that I could use, modified or not. The beauty of it is, I know all their voices.

I need to write something for real, soon, using all the templates in my head.

[Wired*Nun]

Sorry, guys, wife is calling...nite