OOC Chat

[BigRedRod]

mine are a few hundred miles away too :)

[TheDruid20]

OOC: It wasn't truely an OOC but a action list I should have done it better...

[BigRedRod]

anyone heard from Lune recently?

[BigRedRod]

can everyone bang an ooc on the bottom of their next post telling me what you've looted

[TheDruid20]

No I will not post an OOC relavnt to the game inthe IC thread last time I did I got bitched at:-P but I am stealign nothign just helping the others find the rope ladder. The rogue is the one best witht hat kind of stuff.

[BigRedRod]

I didn't say post a solo ooc :)

[LuneMoonshadow]

Just curious, but are we adhereing to the rules strictly? or would we be able to accomplish supernatural deeds in times of great need? Such as like... oh, I don't know... Me calling on the power of the deities to break the bind of insanity from the citizens? That is, when in great need...

[BigRedRod]

with great roleplaying comes great reward


....

in other news
a city of crazy-folk stand between you and the cathedral
MAKE PLAN NOW

[tyckspoon]

Quick, everyone, act crazy! er..seriously, though, what real options do we have? We can use lots of magic to fly us all up to a balcony and move on from there, or we could just shove through the maddening/ed crowds and attempt to climb in easy reach of all of them. The earlier description didn't make this sound likely, but if there are other buildings relatively near the Cathedral some climbing on them could get us near the height needed. I'm open to other options, of course, cause none of those are particularly attractive.

[BigRedRod]

the cathedral is set in a big open square used for gatherings, and that was in the description
so no dice with using other buildings, unless you suddenly got real good at jumping

[TheDruid20]

how good? Serious question.

[BigRedRod]

ever been to that great big square in Mexico city?
I forget the name. May have had a bit of a market going on

it's set in front of a building whose purpose I've forgotten, but it was bloody huge
I'm crap at estimating distance, so I'll just leave you with that thought

[TheDruid20]

ok so liek flying and the ladder wont work... IE the ladder between two buildings.

[BigRedRod]

not in any way, shape or form

[tyckspoon]

How good? Monk with a Jump spell good. Since we haven't got that, we need other options. I'm guessing we're going to end braving the crowds of insane people and hoping they don't really care to bother us..hmm. The Sanctuary spell could give us a solution to that (duration 1 round/level, opponents must make a Will save to attack protected people) but that would require Kythrin to have memorized three of them, and I'm not at all certain the four rounds or so of protection we'd effectively have would be enough to get us to the Cathedral through the crowds.

[TheDruid20]

well I have invisability sphere as I mentioned and fly for 3 people..

[LuneMoonshadow]

I vote we use spells if possible. If not, the most dangerous individual to come up against when in dire need is the cleric. The gods may watch our steps tonight..

[tyckspoon]

Roight. Magic, then. Tick off three level three spells and let's get a move on. Unless there's an even more pointless argument somebody has..mm. Wanna get inside, it'll do us good to have something we're clearly allowed to kill. Like zombie servitors or somesuch. Yeah, these insane crowds are getting to me.

[BigRedRod]

I think you're all agreed
rather than continuing to dicuss what you are going to do I'd prefer you do it

you know enough to get yourselves o nthe roof without my direct intervention, you just need to figure out a nice dramatic enterance :)

[tyckspoon]

hmm..is there any movement in that crowd, or all they all just standing and staring at the cathedral? If they're shuffling around, we could probably just work our way through them with some patience and caution..and if they're standing still, we can probably make our own path in whatever gaps they've left, but we'd have to shove quite a few out of our way..

Distraction, eh? Distraction, distraction..would have to be a long-lived one. It'd be moot if whatever is inside the cathedral has them all in thrall, though.

[BigRedRod]

milling aorund

not really moving

most are sat down

[TheDruid20]

Umm if you want my character to reply or comment you gotta talk to her not here int eh OOC... and an illusion could work...

[BigRedRod]

well they didn't react before when you sent Triren flying over them
so you still have that as a rock solid plan

plus it would allow you to drop into the cathedral through a window in a shower of glass, which is always stylish

[TheDruid20]

Yeah but I can't get us all there.... I need to look up the carry capacity of fly we might be able to do it that way.

[BigRedRod]

Tykc, just so we're clear
this is a big traditional cathedral building

it has one of those slated, very steep roofs(sp?)
you are currently stood by a door which is a way in

I'm not sure where you got the idea that there is a big warm welcome waiting higher up

and why a ladder when you can fly?

[tyckspoon]

If I remember last time, you said all the doors were locked. From the inside. With no outside access for me to work my thieving magics. And, this being a nice big traditional cathedral, I figured perhaps there was something in the nature of a bell tower that would offer access.

Oh. And additionally, none of us are the strongman type needed to break down a door relatively easily.

[BigRedRod]

the door is indeed locked (most likely barred from the inside)

and yes, there is indeed a bell-tower (what good is a church if you can't beckon the people to come pray), so I suppose I can see where you are coming from...


especially if darkness falls upon us
A faint orange glow indicates the approaching dawn
intending to be outside for quite a while then are we?

[tyckspoon]

OOC: need a ruleign on my buffing spells are they 3.0 or 3.5 cause ot significantly effects the duration, but in this case I will use it regardless

It's hard to remember with the glut of 3.5 games going on, but I think that except for a few adoptions that will come into effect as we discover the need, this game is 3.0.

[BigRedRod]

still 3.0, Lune said he didn't want to switch
and until everyone agrees we'll keep it like it is

[TheDruid20]

yeah and I know one of the spells I cast before got made 3.5 so wanted to check.

[tyckspoon]

Is there a pull ring or some such on that trapdoor, or am I looking at yet another flat surface?

[BigRedRod]

I tend to miss big details

it's a traditional trapdoor, with big iron pull-ring

[BigRedRod]

I think that's a more entertaining critical failure than usual :)

[tyckspoon]

Bugger. *facepalm* Class, repeat after me..Take 10 on simple tasks..(chorus) Take 10 on simple tasks. Very good. Now, what do you do when you bungle it anyways? (chorus) Run the smeg away.

[tyckspoon]

(Post Combo Counter=2) So..nobody wants to take the iniative in dealing with the woman? C'mon, here..Triren got us in, it's somebody else's turn..Mr. Diplomacy, I'm lookin' at you here..this *is* a rather massively defiled Core church, after all.

[tyckspoon]

(Wow. Triple Combo!)
Shall we call that lady Ophelia, then? And what's with the smashing a lantern archon thing? I know they're weak as celestials go, but that's unusual..Dispel Good/other sort of banishing spell, perhaps..or a monk, maybe.

[LuneMoonshadow]

Or this is the part where we wet our armor.

This is also the first battle post I've ever made, so if something is wrong about it, I'd be glad to fix it.

[TheDruid20]

You mean you didn't already?

[tyckspoon]

Vampire, then? mm. This still being 3.0, a little Haste would go a long way. Let's see..to fight a vampire..swarms of summoned critters couldn't hurt. Not for any real hope of damaging Ophelia, though; to give us flanking bonuses.

[LuneMoonshadow]

I hope Consecrate actually does something... if so, we stand a better chance.

[TheDruid20]

Like I could hit it anyway!:-)

[tyckspoon]

Consecrate should help a lot. Between the Prot. Against Evil circle and the disruption penalty, we currently have a net +4 AC increase. Use Kythrin's Family domain power next and we're up to +8. (Or try to turn her; the Consecrate bonus will help make that a heck of a lot more possible.) Magic Circles can be attacked from without breaking the protection effect, can't they? hmm..oh, to have a Searing Light spell or three prepped..1d8 damage/caster level 'gainst sun-sensitive undead, all for a ranged touch..

[TheDruid20]

yeah well if I had a morning prep to do again I would have more damage spells. OR combat spells.

[tyckspoon]

I really do want to know if I can attack from inside the Magic Circle without forgoing the protection. ..it'd also be nice to know how big a bonus I got from Luian's Bull's Strength.

[TheDruid20]

1d4+1

[BigRedRod]

I've nevr heard anything to indicate not being able to fight in a circle, sorry I thought the question was just a joke

[TheDruid20]

I think it was wondering if he attacked did the circle fall, and I don't think it does.

[LuneMoonshadow]

It doesn't.

[tyckspoon]

mm. Thanks. I was referencing those clauses in the Protection From Evil spell that say it breaks if you force it against a target or attack them; Magic Circle says 'as Protection From Evil except...' but my reading didn't specifically say whether or not that included the protection breaking. As for the strength bonus..what exact value? 3.5 statbuffs switched it to a flat +4 boost. If I'm not allowed to know, fine and dandy, but I like having the data to play with while I run my personal combat simulations.

[BigRedRod]

we're still playing 3 unless Lune changes his mind

In which case you don't know what value you get, as I tend to not give out specifics

As for the magic circle breaking, that is only when you are using it against something which can't enter it and trying to squash it

[BigRedRod]

Tyck I'm confused with what you want to happen
you are currently stood five feet from your target

taking a step forward won't make you ten feet away, it'll put you in her melle range

Unless you mean backwards, and you want to clamber over a pew

[tyckspoon]

Tyck I'm confused with what you want to happen
you are currently stood five feet from your target

taking a step forward won't make you ten feet away, it'll put you in her melle range

Unless you mean backwards, and you want to clamber over a pewNyah..stupid gridless map. I'll do whatever needs to be done to get me ten feet from her without climbing over a pew, and preferably still within the confines of the Circle. If that's not possible, forget the movement; I'll just stand where I am and take a swing.

Edit: New map, yay. Follow up to Kythrin's position, moving sideways and then up in so as not to risk attacks from Ophelia; take up a spot between Kythrin and Ophelia at the circle-line between them and make my attack from there. If I've got this split right, that should be roughly 8-10 feet.
Double Edit: uh..shall I just make a new post with that action and blank out the old one?

[BigRedRod]

you do know you can turn a grid on, right?

just edit into the last one
i'll post shortly

[tyckspoon]

you do know you can turn a grid on, right?

just edit into the last one
i'll post shortly
It had slipped my mind. Edited.

[BigRedRod]

okay edited that last combat post

oh and it's worth mentioning that Luian is currrently undoing most of the good that Kyth might be producing via her own sphere of minor invulnerability

[TheDruid20]

No its just me.... And the circle effects the vampy lady as well as me so I only get half the bonuses.

[BigRedRod]

it's everyone inside your sphere

[tyckspoon]

10 foot radius globe..BRR's right. It's nulling our protections. This looks like a 'run away' situation; if she's a vampire, she's got too much damage reduction and we have too few magic fighters. Unless 'lower damage resistance' is a viable use of Bestow Curse; even then we'd be at the mercy of her Will save. Oh, and I think I get an attack of opportunity, for what it's worth; they're mostly triggered by moving out of threatened squares. Edit: Badger'd get one too, for what that's worth.

[BigRedRod]

she only moved 5 feet

[tyckspoon]

Time to take rubbings! ..anyone got paper and ink? Or a pencil, or chalk, or some such?

[TheDruid20]

Well or sketching I think with two 7th level casters we will know what parts are most important to copy down.

[tyckspoon]

Hmm..

Assumption: Ophelia is a vampire.
Known: Vampires normally spend daylight periods resting out of the sun, traditionally in a coffin containing soil from their homeland.
Assumption: Spelled sarcophagus is *not* Ophelia's preferred resting place.
Theory: Ophelia's coffin is within, or near, the city bounds.
Therefor: We must research! Fancy container+ titled occupant indicates object of historical significance. Location of normal resting place possible to find. Sleeping vampire=easy target.

Now if we just had a bard to tell us the full story of Ophelia.

Yeah, I know we got her real name now. It has slipped my mind, and I like the Shakespeare reference better.

[BigRedRod]

ok , just so everyone is on the same page (I'll add this to one of the word info threads later)

Tampering with the dead is a taboo subject. So the dead tend to stay dead, body and soul. This makes the kind of necromancer who spends his days digging up bodies and creating a skeletal army rather unpopular and feared, and usually the victim of a special wing of the church who deal with those that defile the dead.

A "speak with dead" spell was suggested on the bishop. Now doing something taboo on the Bishop of the Cathedral, would normally be completely unthinkable. People recieve a good flogging for just thinking about such things (especially when they should be grieving the dead bishop). But desperate times call for desperate measures

[BigRedRod]

I'll leave this open in case anyone would like to do anything in the Cathedral before trotting off to the temple

[TheDruid20]

O M G I feel SOOOO bad its been like 10 months and I still think Kythrin is a female!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But on that note, 10 months and NO exp/..... isn't getting inside the cathedral over all the crazy people and healing the temple worth some atleast plot exp?!?!?

[BigRedRod]

*sigh*
Don't make me come over there!
I'm sure you can figure out when you get xp, one point may not make a line or a pattern but I trust you can infer from other sources


oh and "Guardians" aren't simple guards as you seem to believe Billy. They are companions who act as advisors, friends and support. Not your personal slaves :)
e.g. what Triren is doing now is a perfect example of of the common roles of guardian. Offering sensible advice in the face of another of Luian's pointless potential confrontations with the Elder ;)

[TheDruid20]

You do realize that at this point Luian wants to slap the elder high summoner in the face for being a stuck up tart right?

That whole chaos vs law thing again:-)

Luian is haveing a hard time beleiveing that just cause your old you know what is right.

[TheDruid20]

O any chance of a big cash reward? Luian needs to uberize her staff more.

[tyckspoon]

You do realize that at this point Luian wants to slap the elder high summoner in the face for being a stuck up tart right?

That whole chaos vs law thing again:-)

Luian is haveing a hard time beleiveing that just cause your old you know what is right.
Oh, I agree with you completely. Triren doesn't like the old bugger too much either. It's just much more politic to give lip service to his requests, at the least.

[TheDruid20]

Yeah I see Luian starting her own sect of Summoners in a few levels:-)

Based on doing whats right and championing the freedom of the people, turningover monarchies and the like:-)

[TheDruid20]

O DM I assume I can update my spells, and were there spell books in the temple I was allowed to study to add spells to my book?

Also hopefully my gaurdians, especially Kythrin sees that Luian's dedication is to them first the Summoners second.

[BigRedRod]

I'll be nice and let you gain two spells from all the library work

[TheDruid20]

You are a great and grand and lient DM!!!

[TheDruid20]

Ok done... just wish I leveled up or found gold. We need to kill stuff for treasure now.

[BigRedRod]

I thought everyone had enough to get them over, ah well, you can't be far behind. I suppose you'll be guarranted a level next chapter on the bright side :)

edit : realised I'd forgotten your spending of xp on your staff. That solves this mystery :)

[BigRedRod]

in other news, I'm debating a full design of the High Summoner PrC

Currently it gives 9 high summons but they're too well defined

I'm plotting to reduce it to about 4 different summons gained over the 10 levels built in a different manner. Exactly what that manner is, I'm not exactly sure. I'm open to ideas, but I'll most likely have something by the end of the week

[TheDruid20]

Yeah she has alot of craft item skills...

If Luian can't take the PrC without offical sanction she might not ever take it...

[BigRedRod]

It's a workable angle, especially with how you seemed to aim at pissing off the Elder of one temple :)

[TheDruid20]

Well he was a pompus twit! She is a strong indepandant woman who beleives in personal responsibility. Not following some dottering old fool.

[BigRedRod]

I should mention that my exams start tomorrow
this may or may not affect my posting

Last one is on the 3rd of June
if I dissapaear for a few days around then, don't worry ;)

[TheDruid20]

ok well I think we are waiting for you:-)

[BigRedRod]

see above post

[TheDruid20]

A lack of planning on your part doesn't constitute an emergency on my part:-)

[BigRedRod]

planning wouldn't have moved the three weeks of exams, or made them go away

I'm not so sure I see your "point"

as it stands, I'll post shortly

[TheDruid20]

if you had planned properly you would have stolen the exams a week ago and had them memorized by now and not be in a rush or stressed about them. Or you wold have already bribed your teachers DUH:-)

[tyckspoon]

'm gonna disarm and grapple that damn jester..shouldn't have too hard a time of it, I'll have a +17 or so to the disarm check..(+4 two handed weapon, +4 size difference, +2 chain bonus, +7 to-hit..) Post it later, no time right now.

[tyckspoon]

Hey, Kythrin..I'm seeing Silence on yer spell sheet and we're fighting two spell-casters..shut them up, hey?

[TheDruid20]

Yeah I mean I am trying to ready a counter spell action but my chances are not that great, depending on their level. I really need to get to the next level of spells.. finally I could get some useful conjuration spells... WTF did I choose evocation as my prohibited school?!@?!? Well when we need divinations I have them.

[LuneMoonshadow]

The problem with silence is they can shut up Luian also. I've thought about centering it on one of them, but then they can have fun and run up beside any kind of spellcaster themselves.

[TheDruid20]

Well I am not the greatest caster in combat:-)

[tyckspoon]

Hey, it's just a couple of (probably) bards, one of whom does not seem to be wearing armor..and we're big (for a while)! We can take 'em without magic, and I'd be more worried about us taking another lightning bolt or a fireball than I'd be bothered about carrying out the fight without spell backup.

[TheDruid20]

I concur Luian has some skill with her staff.

[tyckspoon]

Although it'd be nice to have something picking at the one on the roof. I'm pretty sure I can get the black and white one on the ground under control. Maybe some eagles (level 2 summon) or a hippogriff (level 3) to worry the rooftop observer?

[TheDruid20]

good thing someone else thinks of these things...

[tyckspoon]

Round 1, post-spell: Triren ROFLAO
Round 2: as above, except in pain
Round 3: as round 1, while making obscene gestures.
..Told ya to Silence. :worry:

[LuneMoonshadow]

I doubt silence would have helped, as Luian would have been in range of the spell if it was centered on the jester, meaning the blue jester would have been able to cast spells, meaning life would have sucked anyway. Things turned out fine...

I'm also going to be gone this weekend. I'll try to get on to post, but I doubt it will happen. Feel free to turn Kythrin into a NPC for the next three days if needed.

[tyckspoon]

Nah, shouldn't have been centered on one of them, that would have allowed them to take a save. Centered on one of us would have been alright, so whoever was carrying the spell could chase down a target; what I was thinking of was tossing the spell at the ground in the general area of the fight. It's got a (3.5) area of 20 feet; that would have been enough to cover pretty much everyone.

[BigRedRod]

Yay, Exams Finished!

So, if you children want to make a decision about whether to try and find out whatever it is that may or may not be happening here, we can get moving. Just bear in mind that you have a sarcophagus parked in the stable outside that could do wih destroying. Although you should be easily far enough away from andrion for it's people to be free again

[LuneMoonshadow]

I would personally like to know why the inn is empty, exactly. If our reputation with the sarcophagus is already spreading, we may be in for some tough times...

Anyone elses' thoughts?

[tyckspoon]

Well, if we've got a rep with the sarcophagus, it's probably best to keep moving rather than let trouble find us in one place. Then again, we're only a day out of Andrion; this place may have just been evacuated when the city went mad. Whatever's up with it, I think we'd be best off to move on with our mission to destroy the coffin. Stick a pin in this place on our mental map to remind us to check back later, if possible.

[TheDruid20]

Posted... might be slow upcomming going home for an idefinate period of time... PC access will be good I think...

Family death is forthcomming so all going home to see him before he passes.

[BigRedRod]

Righto Billy. As much as that must be awful at least you get to say a proper goodbye, I suppose


Lune,
Exactly how are you intending to get the boy on his own when thefather seemingly has nothing better to do than watch you

[LuneMoonshadow]

I'm going to ask for someone to bring up candles to my room once the others are gone. I figured that the boy would be the one to carry the stuff up and not his father. Why do the work yourself when you can have child labor do it?

[BigRedRod]

that's my motto :)

[tyckspoon]

&@*@ Smegging sob stories! We're going to help him, aren't we..hmm. Maybe we could just leave the sarcophagus with the ogres and let them deal with the thing.

[BigRedRod]

tick, tick, tick...

as they seem to have eaten one summoner and you are tryng to be speedy (leaving an evil artifact lying in a cart is a recipe for distaster), can you really afford to help the poor helpless masses? :)

[LuneMoonshadow]

The helpless masses always need helping.

We shall evalutate the situation and see what we can do. If it turns out we can't spare the time, we'll say "Hey, well... we can't help because the world is going to end unless we destroy this casket thing here. Ogres are bad and all, but the apocalypse is a bit more frightening..."

Maybe... But there is a bit of a moral obligation here also that the cleric cannot just ignore.

[TheDruid20]

Dm as a Summoner of my "skill" would it be possible for me to dispatch a messenger to a nearby largish town that might have more summoners or higher level ones that I could tell about this issue? Is it something they would normally deal with? Or will I need to be creative? If such a thing is possible how close is the nearest aid if I did send a rider on a fast horse?

[tyckspoon]

Actually, this sounds like what an organization such as our friends the Riskbreakers ought to be handling. I mean, here we are just a day out of Andrion and there's a band of ogres setting themselves up as feudal lords..threat to the city, yeah? Hmm..Kythrin could acquire a Sending on the next day and use it to send back to somebody in the city, perhaps.

[BigRedRod]

High Summoners are sworn to help the people
High Summoners live in Summoner Temples
The large towns and cities are marked on the map (which, may or may not include ascale. but as you know it's four days between Lunos and Andrion you can pretty much extrapoloate if I missed it)

[TheDruid20]

umm what map?

And is there anything closeish by that can be sent to for aid?

I mean cause you really are putting us on the spot... my Chaotic side says help the ones in front of us... but my inteligence screams that so many more will be hurt if we fail with the crazy box thingy.

[BigRedRod]

the map in the geography thread

What exactly do you want to call?

[TheDruid20]

well where are we on that map?? I see Lunos and that other place we were...

And there have to be authorities and other temples.,,,

[BigRedRod]

a day into the journey from Andrion

[SponkleofInfini]

Hey I am back, could I rejoin this game. I can't be bothered to look through the game to see how my character left the game. I see that someone took Garland over apart from that I have no idea.

[TheDruid20]

We Need Sword!!!

[SponkleofInfini]

Ah yeah what he said

[BigRedRod]

so how about some posting?
if you aren'thelping the needy masses, you need to tell them...

And Sponkle your character was used to remove Tilus from the game, he *could* come back. But not for a chapter or two. I'll chat to you about it when I get back on IMs

[SponkleofInfini]

Fair enough....I suppose

[TheDruid20]

umm I thought we were waiting for you

[BigRedRod]

No, that would involve someone actually saying something to the people you are leaving to fend for themselves
As looking at the IC must be too much trouble billy, I'll simplify :)

People : Help us!
*players wander off into corner*
Players : Let's not help them
Other Players : Ok!
People : Erm, Hello?

[TheDruid20]

Well I thought the cleric would say something since he was the one dealing with them....

[SponkleofInfini]

BRR give me a yodel when you can bring me back into the game....I need to something.......grr

[BigRedRod]

Sponkle, when/if

Billy, so I'm right then :) It isn't my turn to post at all. Lune's post did break at an odd point butperhaps it is unfair to place the burden solely on one character

[LuneMoonshadow]

Sorry sorry!

Unexpected and rather abrupt leaving on my part... I forgot I was going out of town until that day and forgot to post here. My apologies. At least I didn't miss much.

[BigRedRod]

as for paying:

It's customary not to charge a summoner and her guardians (although some don't follow this custom and demand everyone pays)
Although a Summoner normally will leave payment (unless they happen to provide a useful service, as most Summoners find themselves doing at each and every stop in their travels)

[LuneMoonshadow]

I wish we would on this stop... :worry:

[tyckspoon]

Ah, well, it's not leisurely travel, right? I mean, we don't have the time to set up shop for a day and have everything in town that's broken bought to us for a Mend spell, for example.

It's customary not to charge a summoner and her guardians (although some don't follow this custom and demand everyone pays)
Although a Summoner normally will leave payment
Summoners promise to pay as long as everybody else promises not to ask them for money?

[BigRedRod]

No, you have a job to do. There isn't time to find people's lost children and find out why the mayor is acting strangely at each and every stop.

As for the payment issue it's like being a reverse concierge. Although in some cases people don't obey this tradition (some people don't like the High-Summoners for a variety of reasons, or don't like them enough at any rate)

Something it's worth noting
Up until fifteen years ago (when the silver lady was dethroned) it was a hard life for a summoner. Making a pilgramage to another temple often ended in an attack from silver riders (and therefore usually death) an so summoner numbers dwindelled. The few power summoners remained in their temples to protect the teachings and surroudning areas. Some hold itagainst the summoners that they didn't work directly to the lady's downfall

I'll be putting up a history post that will explain more about the heroes who dethroned her, and various events. It should clarrify things

[LuneMoonshadow]

I'm gonna be gone until the 17th... take over my char for me. So long as I don't die.. <.<;;

[tyckspoon]

I'd like to increase my supply of thunderstones and tangle bags a little; maybe get a small supply of a basic poison, if any is available and is cheap enough. Oh, yeah, and a pair of earplugs for when I end up having to smash a thunderstone at my own feet.

[LuneMoonshadow]

Good to know I haven't died yet.

[tyckspoon]

Standard PHB prices for the stones and bags?

[BigRedRod]

Yep

[BigRedRod]

Just so we are clear, is there some kind of ear-gum in one ofthe books that we are discussing? I was going with a -5 to listen +2 on relevant saves

As for the poison I was just going with a contact dex poison. And do you just want a single dose?

I'd prefer to clarrify OOC as the alchemist wil lclearly know exaclty what you want :)

[tyckspoon]

I didn't have anything in particular in mind. Ear-plugs, earmuffs, whatever he's got. Although I suspect earplugs would be most likely. Contact Dex was what I was thinking the poison would be too. Single dose will be fine, since I probably shouldn't try to knock out the alchemist and run away with his entire stock.

[BigRedRod]

Sorry to do this to you but I think you all saw it coming:

I'm stopping the game.

The reasons for this are likely quite obvious, but broadly speaking I run these games for fun and this one simply has not been enjoyable. I'd hoped that it would find its swing and things would work out but it really hasn't. Each and every post seems like a fight against the tide.

A stubborn bastard I may be, but I know when I've lost and this has gone far enough. I can't bring myself to create another post. There seems to be no reason to keep this uphill struggle going when I could spend the time on another idea.

I learnt a great deal in this game and if I do decide to make another game I'll be able to apply it to prevent this happening again.


Rather than just have Danny cast this forum into the flames of oblivion next time I speak to him I'll leave it for a while so you can make bitchy comments ;)

[TheDruid20]

::bitch bitch bitch:: it has been an uphill battle for awhile now...

[LuneMoonshadow]

It was inevitable, but fun while it lasted. Kythrin will ressurect to save the world another day, I suppose...

However, I have been spending what time I have creating an RPG myself. Think of DnD rules, and throw in a class system from Final Fantasy Tactics. 1500+ race combinations, 50 classes, 360 spells, and over 100 weapon/armor abilities and rising. I'm posting things daily and the game should be starting soon, and I'll need people to test the system to make sure its stable and doesn't suck balls. A shameless promotion, I know, but I need people to sign up and play.

The Planes of Caerdonin (www.members.lycos.co.uk/caerdonin)



Oh, and when you make a new campaign, let me know... I've enjoyed this.

[SponkleofInfini]

Well I enjoyed the game when I was playing originally....but it would be good to get in on one of your new prospective campaigns.

[tyckspoon]

Oh, well. Goodbye, thief..See you in the funny papers and all that jazz.

[itches]

But the plot, tell us what was going to happen!

[BigRedRod]

It's hard to write it in a narrative, so I'll just explain everything

The sarcophagus was planted in the cathedral by the corrupted upper ranks, they had fled to Valance (which is like Vatican city). The corrupion came from a belief that the Gods had been dead since the sealing, even with faltering faith they managed to draw divine powers. And when they abandoned worhsip of the Gods they still drew forth power. The corruption was to spread throughout the land

The two jesters were to attack again before Fira (although one was now a corpse, which is something like a zombie that retains its sense of being, from the BoVD). The attack was to involve the burning of several wagons and the slaughter of inncoent people (players would have arrived to find the male undead jester holding a woman roughly by the head, snapping her neck ad then fighting. The live jester would have then raised the bodies as typical zombies during the battle.)

But who were the Jesters? : Recurring badguys you would love to hate and eventually hate to hate as the truth unveiled itself through their mockery. Eventually changing from corpse to bone as you killed them again and again. It is very hard to notice a childhood friend when they are all grown up and dressed as jesters. The silver riders took Sora and Luca from Lunos, a pair of twins and after fifteen years they have become a pair of evil jesters intend on foiling High-Summoner Luian's quest.

What about Ielenia and Garland? : Efforts to hunt down the insane Vampire failed (I was going to throw her as a random encounter against the party at some point several chapters hence) and after andrion was back on it's feet she continued her own pilgramage. Her thoughts were clouded with envy for Luian, who she always believed to have more power. The jealously would be her downfalling as she fell from the light of the summoners and ended up joining a fallen summoner temple i nthe frozen wastes.
Ielenia would have worked to undermine Luian at every step (informing bounty hunters that she was a powerful mage con woman who was impersonating a High summoner and must be killed, for one.). Her efforts would have turned the people of the world more and more against Luian as Ielenia's hatred and lies reached the people.
Eventualy entire villages would be destroyed by the evil summoners and eyes would fall on Luian

How about those untrustworthy Riskbreakers? : Simply put they were good guys. You were just meant to hate them :) Lord Haustan saw that even with the Silver Lady vanquished the world was not peaceful and safe. The riskbreakers were highly skilled groups of individuals who would travel the world further the causes of law and good. Sort of like Paladins, although not as extreme. In short they would become rivals to the players, often turning up to a scene the players almost had under control and taking command of it. Although in the end they would have provided much needed help to the party

The Glue : As was fairly easy to guess the Silver Lady was returning. The soul of the Lady was not so easy to destroy and in certain vessels it could be restored. An oracle told the surviving follows of the lady that one such vessel would be found in Lunos, one of the children. The riders went forth and kidnapped all they could. Felicity was the vessel and through her the Silver Lady had returned. However a six year old girl isn't much good as overlord, so time was allowed to pass until the ady was capable of exurtng her will and leadership.
The corrupting of the church was her doing, as were the two jesters and yes, even the ogre gang .The evil temple however was not, that was more of a case of summoners not embracing the ideals that the temples taught

Triren : As luck would have it you had a prophet in the party. I only sent him one (or perhaps two) of these confusing dreams during our playtime. More would have come

As you may have guessed I'm a DM who likes to wing things rather than plan deeply into the future(I prefer to react to what happens rather than try and force players to follow rails). After Fira (submerging the box would have summoned a big fire demon who needed destroying to end the curse of the sarcophagus. And a few weeks of training would have equipped Luian with the teachings) it was going to become rather more open


I'm kinda having a brain lock, if anyone has any specific questions (you wanted to know exactly what was going on somewhere) then ask. I'll try and get everything straight before I hand this over to Danny

[SponkleofInfini]

Well the section on Garland revealed nothing about Garland...woohoo :(

[BigRedRod]

He was just following his charge out of loyalty, he would have fought the party if he needed to but not enjoyed it. There wasn't much to say and I neglected to say it :)

[SponkleofInfini]

I would have kicked their arse to *Shakes Fist*

[LuneMoonshadow]

I would have liked to see some undead... turning would have been fun. Ignoring the time when the vampire sucked all my levels, anyway. Couldn't turn worth crap then, so it doesn't count.

[BigRedRod]

I asked Danny if he would archive this forum rather than destroy it (seeing as how it has out lasted most of the game attempts on this board). Which basically means the forum will remain here but it will be locked

He seems to have agreed


THE END
Of the game that is. It isn't the end of the story...